The Law & Order Franchise

[Vintage Paw]

Okay, so watching the current new SVU on Hallmark at the moment. Got Hilary Duff in it. [spoiler="those watching on +1]Anyway, normal 'mother kills daughter' thing, then they say actually the little girl died from measles.

Now they're treating measles like it's ebola or something, talking about Patient Zero, trying to track down the person who's spreading it. What the fuck has a little bit of measles got to do with kiddy and sex crimes?

IT'S MEASLES! IT'S FUCKING MEASLES! IT'S MOTHERFUCKING MEASLES! KIDS GET MEASLES! OMFG!!!

They're going to go after some woman who didn't vaccinate her child for measles (who's kid got over measles quite easily on their own) for 'murdering' the kid of another woman by spreading measles.[/spoiler]

Fucking hell.

 

[Vintage Paw]

[spoiler="those watching on +1]Thank god they found her not guilty! There was some seriously warped shit there.[/spoiler] Fucking Americans. *ducks*

 

[red rose]

I truly, truly hope that new CSU is only in a couple of episodes.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I truly, truly hope that new CSU is only in a couple of episodes.

He was awful wasn't he! When he first appeared he was quite amusing, but screaming 'we've got a body!!!' - omg, I'd have lamped him!

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Okay, so watching the current new SVU on Hallmark at the moment. Got Hilary Duff in it. Anyway, normal 'mother kills daughter' thing, then they say actually the little girl died from measles.

Now they're treating measles like it's ebola or something, talking about Patient Zero, trying to track down the person who's spreading it. What the fuck has a little bit of measles got to do with kiddy and sex crimes?

IT'S MEASLES! IT'S FUCKING MEASLES! IT'S MOTHERFUCKING MEASLES! KIDS GET MEASLES! OMFG!!!

They're going to go after some woman who didn't vaccinate her child for measles (who's kid got over measles quite easily on their own) for 'murdering' the kid of another woman by spreading measles.

Fucking hell.

SPOILER WARNING FFS - I'm watching this on +1

 

[Vintage Paw]

Meep, soz Nanks.

 

[Vintage Paw]

That CSU is back. Jesus

 

[Nanker Phelge]

That CSU is back. Jesus

I'm gonna watch the next one too so keep it plot free, please?

 

[Vintage Paw]

I'm gonna watch the next one too so keep it plot free, please?

That has got zero to do with plot - trust me

 

[Vintage Paw]

Spoiler: so nanker's viewing pleasure isn't spoiled

Jesus! Now they're going to charge a girl with distributing kiddy porn. Only, she was sending a nude photo of herself to her boyfriends. Fucking hell. How fucked up are some people. That's one of the things about this show that really frustrates me - the way the law is twisted to such extremes it's absolutely absurd.

Mr Paw says this actually happened to someone who was putting up pictures of themselves on myspace.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Spoiler: people who don't want to know

That judge is a fucking bitch!

 

[LindaR]

Watching the second SVU atm, but hopefully without spoiling anything on the first, frankly I'm with them on how dangerous measles is.

 

[LindaR]

Oh, and the second episode has actually happened in real life in the US: the judges involved were in court a couple of months ago.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Watching the second SVU atm, but hopefully without spoiling anything on the first, frankly I'm with them on how dangerous measles is.

But to charge her with murder? Preposterous.

 

[LindaR]

Well, yeah, from what I've seen of their law, it should've been negligent homicide. I'm with Elliot: if she wants to go live in a shack in the woods, fine, but in the city she has responsibilities to others.

 

[Vintage Paw]

How far down that road do you want to go? Smoking in public where others can catch a whiff?

 

[LindaR]

Far too long to explain in this forum, but I have strong personal reasons for getting extremely fucked off with idiots who don't vaccinate when there's no good reason why they shouldn't.
And unlike NYC, I include religion as no good reason. Wasn't it funny when the Amish bloke thought his son had VD?

 

[Nanker Phelge]

What a bizarre couple of episodes of SVU last night directly after two very tense criminal Intents.

The SVU with Jim Robinson just went right wonky at the end...'Remember the voice' and then the next episode with the new CSU retard was just fucking poor.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Pft, I haven't seen it for the past couple of weeks.

My sky mag yesterday did, however, tell me there is a new Law & Order coming next week. With Ken Barlow's RL son in it as new DE ADA. And Green has a new partner. 'Citin'.

So the CSU twonk is still in it? I reckon he's ripe for either killing someone himself, or getting killed. I'd be happy with either, or both.

 

[mhendo]

I was a big fan of the original Law and Order for a long time. I'll watch any episode with any combination of Paul Sorvino/George Dzundza/Chris Noth/Jerry Orbach/Benjamin Bratt/Jesse Martin. Since Jerry Orbach died, though, i've steadily fallen away. I think that, after 15 years, it just got a bit stale.

i watched some SVU for a while, and don't mind it, but i've never really gotten into it.

As for Criminal Intent, Vincent D'Onofiro's character makes me all stabby. He drives me fucking crazy, and i simply can't watch him. And his complete omniscience, combined with his partner being a complete cipher, is annoying as fuck.

I think one big problem faced by the franchise, and particularly by the original show, which has always tended to focus on homicides, is that it's just not especially believable anymore to anyone who knows anything about New York City.

When Law and Order started, in 1990, it was still possible to portray Manhattan, or at least some areas of it, as a genuinely dangerous place. Having a murder to solve every week wasn't much of a stretch at all, with Manhattan having 503 homicides in 1990.

But New York has gotten much more expensive and much more gentrified since then. Last year in Manhattan, there were 61 homicides. The borough of Manhattan is covered by 22 precincts. With numbers like this, it becomes a bit hard to believe that one pair of detectives at one single precinct (the fictional 27th of L&O) deals with 20-30 murders a year.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

But New York has gotten much more expensive and much more gentrified since then. Last year in Manhattan, there were 61 homicides. The borough of Manhattan is covered by 22 precincts. With numbers like this, it becomes a bit hard to believe that one pair of detectives at one single precinct (the fictional 27th of L&O) deals with 20-30 murders a year.

Oh that's nonsense. Columbo solves murders every week, as does Quincy and I'm fucked if I'm ever going on holiday if there's a possibility Jessica Fletcher's going to be there. Everywhere she goes, people get murdered. I find that a bit suspicious

 

[mhendo]

Oh that's nonsense. Columbo solves murders every week, as does Quincy and I'm fucked if I'm ever going on holiday if there's a possibility Jessica Fletcher's going to be there. Everywhere she goes, people get murdered. I find that a bit suspicious

Yeah, and i don't watch any of those shows, because i think they're crap.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Yeah, and i don't watch any of those shows, because i think they're crap.

Well I don't watch Jessica Fletcher but I watch the other two

 

[DaveCinzano]

So if The Wire was like smack, L&O would be like methadone, and CSI:Miami is like cough mints.