The Last Jedi : BEWARE SPOILERS YOU SHOULD

[Wilf]

I'm now starting to understand why people didn't like this. It's because they're stupid and they weren't paying attention.

Yes, that's me covered.

Actually, I did quite like it.

 

[ruffneck23]

again I'l say I did enjoy it,I just found a lot not to like about it, these things can co-exist in the same space me thinks

 

[Saints Alive]

About as good as TFA I thought, very enjoyable, I just switched off and went with the ride. Great action and quite a few laughs, the biggest one from me was for Luke

Spoiler

brushing dirt off his shoulder

I went to watch it with my 11 year old boy, who thought it was "THE BEST FILM EVER MADE!!!". A hit with the target demographic then.

Ha, I went with my 9 and 11 year old boys and they both thought the whole thing was amazing too. AND, that was my youngest boy's favourite moment as well. He asked if he was allowed to do it at school and be all cryptic He went on and on about it on the way home, impressed with how cool Luke was - even though it was some kind of weird astral projection.

 

[5t3IIa]

I'm now starting to understand why people didn't like this. It's because they're stupid and they weren't paying attention.

 

[Gromit]

Shows how wrecked and asleep I was by 2.30 a.m., but I'd forgotten that Luke S had died. Or has he? At the very least he's going to appear as a ghostly yoda style apparition on some godforsaken planet when whatever she's called is having a dark teatime of the soul.

He transcends. Proven by the vanishing body.

So yes he can now do a Yoda, Ben, Darth.

Surprised Darth hasn't appeared to Kylo Ren and told him to get a grip and stop praying to him like some One Direction fan girl.

 

[Wilf]

He transcends. Proven by the vanishing body.

.

It's almost as if... there's rules about this sort of thing.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Surprised Darth hasn't appeared to Kylo Ren and told him to get a grip and stop praying to him like some One Direction fan girl.

That's been niggling in the back of my head since Awakens, tbh. Fucking sort it 'aht, Anakin

 

[fucthest8]

Well, I thought it was the best one since IV

Obviously, lots of it is bollocks. But's it's STAR WARS for fucksake, not Arrival.

 

[fucthest8]

EVERY post here has been negative. Every. Single. One. Every opportunity to claim something was bad is seized upon even though (like the salt and sand thing) it's actually pretty cool. And bizarrely putting it on ignore isn't working - it keeps showing up anyway. I am out of here though because for me so much negativity is sucking the joy out of my experience with a film I really enjoyed

Fuck 'em. I loved it

 

[fucthest8]

Out of interest, did anyone else go without having read a thing about it or watched any trailers at all? That's what I did. I'm wondering if it makes a difference.

Started doing it with games a couple of years back, now do it with films too. I find it makes everything better.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Out of interest, did anyone else go without having read a thing about it or watched any trailers at all? That's what I did. I'm wondering if it makes a difference.

Yeah, I did. To the point where I stuck my headphones on and closed my eyes when the trailer came on in the cinema

If I know I'm going to see a film I avoid as much as possible about it; I really like discovering all these things in the context of the film/story.

 

[Gromit]

Out of interest, did anyone else go without having read a thing about it or watched any trailers at all? That's what I did. I'm wondering if it makes a difference.

Started doing it with games a couple of years back, now do it with films too. I find it makes everything better.

I read nothing.
Couldn't avoid seeing a trailer or two but remember nothing from the trailers other than Rey holding a light sabre out plaintively and Rey seemingly having a convo with Ren about not knowing her place in the world and him seemingly offering one.

 

[Beats & Pieces]

Banned poster uses current poster as a conduit to post his view thusly:


I really wanted to enjoy this movie, and I convinced myself that I had until the reality set in. What a disappointment. A spit in the face to Star Wars fans. I'm now convinced that anyone who likes this movie is either still in shock or a Disney shill.

The bad:
Luke Skywalker dies
Leia space Poppins
Captain Phasma - she's back! For one whole scene!
Social commentary. I know hurting animals and selling weapons is bad, I don't need star wars to tell me.
Luke Skywalker dies
Del Toro - wasted chance
Luke was considering killing his own apprentice? Luke Skywalker? Fuck off!
The whole Finn and Rose subplot.
Admiral Ackbar dies
Snoke doesn't do anything and dies
Luke Skywalker dies
That ending. Dear God.
Porgs. In fact, all the creatures on that island
No lightsaber duel
Too many jokes
No questions from TFA were answered.
Luke Skywalker dies

The Good:
Hamill and Fisher gave really good performances


Maybe I've been a tad unfair, and tbh I didn't rate TFA after the first viewing but it grew on me. Maybe this will, but I'm not in a rush to watch it again. Not for a couple of weeks.

Bring back George Lucas!

Luke doesn't die.
Leia scene probably a low point in the film - the finest emotional manipulation
Luke doesn't die
Phasma - less a charachter and more of a toy with superficial gender politics attached
Hurting animals and selling weapons - Wampas and Tauntauns? Star Wars as less black / white bifurcation and more about grey
Luke doesn't die
Del Toro - meh but he he wasn't killed off so the character might return? Disability politics anyone?
Luke / Kylo - let's not bother to explain properly - a flashback is enough
Finn / Rose - Questions of sexuality can be explored in a highly racially constructed way
Admiral Ackbar killed - do you like your salmon fried or oven cooked?
Snoke - why bother explaining anything when we can just kill him off - backstory not required *insert personal flashback*
Luke doesn't die
Broom kid. The Force? That will be the next trilogy taken care of...did they like 'Turbo' and 'Tour de France'?
Porgs. Could you eat one? Let us do animal welfare - but Luke eats fish
Lightsabres - what happened to the green one?
Jokes - subjective
TFA - don't answer questions just create them - audiences will keep coming back for more
Luke doesn't die

Maybe add:

Yoda - learn from your mistakes - oh really? Tell me about Jedi hubris and why has Luke not apparently *spoken* to you or anyone else - maybe his Dad had a few things to say about poor parenting? How is Qui-Gonn getting on - and has he spoken to Obi-Wan recently?
Godspeed - first entrance in to Star Wars cinema - care to explain?
Luke - likely to be back in Episode 9 - ghosts can now interact with the physical realm. Jedi hate books.
Religion - just leave alone Disney
Dice - real or not real?
John Williams - Loves Mahler's Symphony No 9 - especially the 3rd movement

 

[SpookyFrank]

Leia scene probably a low point in the film - the finest emotional manipulation

You know 'emotional manipulation' is basically the purpose of filmmaking right?

And you may be surprised to learn that they actually wrote and filmed Leia's scenes before Carrie Fisher died. So how they could have deliberately exploited her death for cheap pathos is unclear to me. If anything it's clear that they didn't change a note of Fisher's performance or her character's role in the story, as I feared they might for the sake of the series' ongoing continuity.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Finn / Rose - Questions of sexuality can be explored in a highly racially constructed way

Just fuck off with whatever the fuck this is supposed to mean.

 

[Santino]

Godspeed - first entrance in to Star Wars cinema - care to explain?....
Religion - just leave alone Disney

"Oh God, my uncle. How am I going to explain this?" - Episode IV

"Then I'll see you in hell!" - Episode V

 

[Santino]

"Your sad devotion to that ancient religion hasn't helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes..." - Episode IV

 

[chilango]

Popped into the Disney store just now. Officially so my daughter could have a browse, unofficially just to see if I’d be tempted by a fluffy Porg. I wasn’t.

 

[chilango]

...though I’m sure a roaring trade will occur in golden dice for gentlemen of a certain age.

 

[DexterTCN]

Ray crosses the galaxy, treks up half a mountain and hands the sacred light sabre to Master Luke. He chucks it over his shoulder and down a cliff. Classic...and insta meme.

"What do you want me to do? Walk out and face the entire might of the First Order with a laser sword?" Later on...he does this.

Ray stole the Jedi books, you see them at the end.

The scene where they 'phone' Min Sakul in the middle of a gun fight that she calls it 'union negotiations'.

For a Star Wars film it was very good...all of the new lot have been good. Haven't been to see one in the cinema since ESB and eveyone enjoyed it.

 

[krtek a houby]

So,

Spoiler

apart from "what the hell", "godspeed", "bastard" it felt about right. Loved the secnery and we were spellbound by Skellig. The Yoda bit was so unexpected and it felt like proper muppet Yoda, not horrible CGI Yoda. And how great Rey turned out to be an ordinary person and Snoke was just a bad dude. Even if the casino world was a bit superflous, it was fun and yeah, fuck you arms dealers! Luke was justy brilliant and Leia uses the force for the first time and how cool was it? Highly entertaining and better than TFA. Is it better than Rogue, though? Hmmmm. Have to watch it again in the near future...

 

[fucthest8]

Luke doesn't die.
Leia scene probably a low point in the film - the finest emotional manipulation
Luke doesn't die
Phasma - less a charachter and more of a toy with superficial gender politics attached
Hurting animals and selling weapons - Wampas and Tauntauns? Star Wars as less black / white bifurcation and more about grey
Luke doesn't die
Del Toro - meh but he he wasn't killed off so the character might return? Disability politics anyone?
Luke / Kylo - let's not bother to explain properly - a flashback is enough
Finn / Rose - Questions of sexuality can be explored in a highly racially constructed way
Admiral Ackbar killed - do you like your salmon fried or oven cooked?
Snoke - why bother explaining anything when we can just kill him off - backstory not required *insert personal flashback*
Luke doesn't die
Broom kid. The Force? That will be the next trilogy taken care of...did they like 'Turbo' and 'Tour de France'?
Porgs. Could you eat one? Let us do animal welfare - but Luke eats fish
Lightsabres - what happened to the green one?
Jokes - subjective
TFA - don't answer questions just create them - audiences will keep coming back for more
Luke doesn't die

Maybe add:

Yoda - learn from your mistakes - oh really? Tell me about Jedi hubris and why has Luke not apparently *spoken* to you or anyone else - maybe his Dad had a few things to say about poor parenting? How is Qui-Gonn getting on - and has he spoken to Obi-Wan recently?
Godspeed - first entrance in to Star Wars cinema - care to explain?
Luke - likely to be back in Episode 9 - ghosts can now interact with the physical realm. Jedi hate books.
Religion - just leave alone Disney
Dice - real or not real?
John Williams - Loves Mahler's Symphony No 9 - especially the 3rd movement

You don't really like Star Wars, do you?

 

[donkyboy]

not going to watch this in the cinema. will wait for torrent. not a massive star wars fan, so have read all the spoilers.

 

[krtek a houby]

not going to watch this in the cinema. will wait for torrent. not a massive star wars fan, so have read all the spoilers.

This isn't the film you're looking for.

 

[donkyboy]

will still watch

 

[krtek a houby]

will still watch

Why bother?

 

[donkyboy]

Will watch

 

[Gromit]

Will watch

These aren't the films you're looking for.

Move along.

 

[krtek a houby]

Will watch

Whatever. Boring conversation anyway.

 

[donkyboy]

still watching it