The Kinks Shit Hot/Shit

[Steel Icarus]

I must confess to knowing little about them other than their singles, but as a singles band they're as good as anyone.

 

[audiotech]

Dave Davies’ top Kinks tracks.

http://www.digster.co.uk/playlists/dave-davies-top-kinks-tracks/

 

[ericjarvis]

So basically we have thread title fail.

It should have been "The Kinks Shit Hot/even better than Shit Hot.

 

[audiotech]

 

[Divisive Cotton]

BBC4 are having a Kinks night tonight starting at 21:00

It's worth watching Dave Davies: Kinkdom Come on the iPlayer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012ht1t/Dave_Davies_Kinkdom_Come/

it was made by Julien Temple and that is always a guarantee of quality

 

[audiotech]

The Kinks at the BBC. Performances on the Old Grey Whistle Test, Top of the Pops and Later with Jools Holland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b012ht1w/The_Kinks_at_the_BBC/

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Nothing to not like is there really?

 

[twentythreedom]

Brilliant band, and Ray Davies is a geezer too.

 

[lighterthief]

and - All Night Stand <snip> a fantastic Kinks song which never made it past an acoustic demo apparrently - had this cover version on vinyl for years without realising that they'd written it.

Yep, this is fab track - it's on youtube and I think appeared on the Kinks boxset (that's where I found it on Spotify).

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Pretty sure the riff on 'You Really Got Me' is actually played by an uncredited Jimmy Page though ...

 

[butchersapron]

Stop saying that. It's nonsense as been shown over and over

 

[seeformiles]

I do like the Kinks but some of the time the lyrics are better than the music accompanying them.

 

[audiotech]

'All Day And All of The Night'

All Barre/Power Chords

Verse

F slide to G
G slide to F
Bb A

Chorus

Bb F
A G C A
D C F D

 

[Kaka Tim]

Another lesser known classic -

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Another lesser known classic -

A Classic, but hardly lesser known.

I met Ray Davies in about 1998. He asked for my jacket, which was a dead cool light brown chord harrington, I said 'yeah, you let me have yours then' (which was a shit suede suit jacket thing). He refused.

Anyway.....I asked him 'why do you never play 'Shrangri La' live?'

He said 'I do when I'm in America'

I said 'Really? You should play it here!'

He said 'maybe'

Later at the BBC proms thing he sat there and said 'here's a song I've never played live before ' Shrangli La''

He's a beautiful cunt that Ray!

 

[Kaka Tim]

Well its not as well known as waterloo sunset, dedicated follower etc and you never ever hear it on the radio.
Was it a single?

 

[skyscraper101]

All Day And All Of The Night has terrible production

 

[audiotech]

What's up with it in your humble opinion?

Dave Davies slashed his speaker cones to get that, at the time, innovative, distorted sound from his guitar.

 

[Me76]

I saw Ray in Lewisham in about 96 when he did a tour on his own. It was basically him talking with a bit of music thrown in (may be to promote X-Ray?) He was brill. I had a chat to him afterwards at the stage door as well but the combination of some beers and being completely stage struck means I remember very little of the conversation. Apartg from the fact he commented on my Charlton Athletic badge.

Saw the Kinks live at Wembley a couple of years before that too.

They are my cheer up music. I think it is actually impossible to listen to their songs without a little grin appearing on your face!

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Dave Daives is an underated guitarist as well, the riff for You Really Got Me on its own makes him a rock immotal. Trouble was, he was in a band with Britains greatest ever songwirtier so he tends to get overlooked.

I've recently read Daves autobiography (which is pretty funny, mostly for the wrong reasons), where he says Ray played it on the organ (or piano, I can't remember) in their front room and got dave to copy what he was playing on the guitar.

 

[danny la rouge]

I've recently read Daves autobiography (which is pretty funny, mostly for the wrong reasons), where he says Ray played it on the organ (or piano, I can't remember) in their front room and got dave to copy what he was playing on the guitar.

Out of tune piano.

But a chord sequence on piano can be interpreted in many ways by a guitarist. It doesn't mean Ray wrote the riff.

 

[audiotech]

I've recently read Daves autobiography (which is pretty funny, mostly for the wrong reasons),..

I've read his book and I concur.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Out of tune piano.

But a chord sequence on piano can be interpreted in many ways by a guitarist. It doesn't mean Ray wrote the riff.

Humm, I play both and I would say that's a load of balls. Not sure how you could interpret a straight major chord in any other way. Anyway, Dave said Ray wrote the riff, as does Ray and his 100% writing credit on the song.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I've read his book and I concur.

It's written a bit like a childs school essay about what he did in the summer holidays. He is constantly trying to make out how cool he is but just comes off at a real twat. His ranting about Ray and his controlling behavior in the band may well be true but in the context of the rest of the book (where Dave is a bell end) it just sounds like he is very bitter and twisted.
I love the climax where Ray starts channeling magical spiritual energy & communicating with UFOs.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Humm, I play both and I would say that's a load of balls. Not sure how you could interpret a straight major chord in any other way. Anyway, Dave said Ray wrote the riff, as does Ray and his 100% writing credit on the song.

Oh come on - the genius of that riff is not the notes - its the viscious attack and distortion that gives it the nasty, hard, insistent, aggresive and exhilirating sound. Nothing had been heard like that before.

 

[Kaka Tim]

It's written a bit like a childs school essay about what he did in the summer holidays. He is constantly trying to make out how cool he is but just comes off at a real twat. His ranting about Ray and his controlling behavior in the band may well be true but in the context of the rest of the book (where Dave is a bell end) it just sounds like he is very bitter and twisted.
I love the climax where Ray starts channeling magical spiritual energy & communicating with UFOs.

Agree - its quite immature and very badly written.

However Ray was clearly quite shit to him. Dave wrote some great songs - but Ray wouldn't play them live. Its also interesting how few guitar solos there are on Kinks songs.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Agree - its quite immature and very badly written.

However Ray was clearly quite shit to him. Dave wrote some great songs - but Ray wouldn't play them live. Its also interesting how few guitar solos there are on Kinks songs.

I think Ray probably was a shit to Dave, it's just with everything else in the book I can't help but take it with a pinch of salt.
I'd like to read Rays account of things one day, but they don't have it in my library.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Oh come on - the genius of that riff is not the notes - its the viscious attack and distortion that gives it the nasty, hard, insistent, aggresive and exhilirating sound. Nothing had been heard like that before.

That's not writing a song. Plus the 'attack' and phrasing were what Ray wrote. Dave says in the book that Ray said something like "hey play this with your guitar sound it will be great".

 

[butchersapron]

What else was he going to play it with? Hey elvis, sing something in the way that you sing things.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

What else was he going to play it with? Hey elvis, sing something in the way that you sing things.

In the book it explains that Dave had just invented this new guitar sound with two amps and a broken speaker. Ray and he were working out things that would sound 'cool' with the new sound.