The job hunting support thread

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by Cloo, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. stuff_it

    stuff_it stirred the primordial soup

    Have been applying for the odd job that's particularly suited to me, but am generally happy with freelancing. Just wouldn't mind being able to up my game with the right position.

    Just got to the second stage interviewing for something that would be perfect, and have had the least psoriasis outbreak due to a possible job in a while. Usually my skin pretty much falls off when I get to the first stage.

    Anyway. Stage 2. Omgz. Maybe I'll get it. Squeee!!
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  2. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    I seem to have two job offers...

    Similar sort of jobs (the same niche as i'm in now) at slightly more money than I'm on now.

    One would be about half an hour each way, the other would be less than my current commute but still a bit of a trek - although keeps open the possibility of moving back to London (although not really part of London I know that well)

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  3. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

  4. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    i wish i felt excited...
  5. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    What are the advantages and disadvantages of each and of staying in your current job if you have one?
    It does sound like the gains are a bit marginal.
  6. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    fairly poxed off with current job, not to mention commute which is nearly 2 hours each way so by the time the weekend comes i'm bloody knackered

    have had the feeling since i started there that some people regard me as just there to count down the years to retirement (i'm currently late 40s) - it's a bit odd, when i started i was among the youngest on the department, but with retirements and so on, think i'm now seen as one of the older generation.

    i don't see myself as being CEO in a few years (or ever), but not quite ready for the pre-retirement quiet life just quite yet (especially as the way pension ages are going i'm still nearly 20 years off my pension)

    old section boss (now retired) was quite open (although only after i'd started there) that he didn't really believe in developing people (because they might then leave) but any new responsibilities etc (when someone has left / retired) have just gone the way of other people - actually asking if anyone is interested in doing X isn't the done thing.

    plan when i went for current job was to move back to south london - nearer job and also nearer mum-tat (she's now 80 and doesn't need anything like constant care, but i could really do with being near enough to nip round when there's a minor problem - smallish scale things like changing a light bulb is something that's probably not a good idea for her to be doing, and she's not going to get any younger) - but the way property prices went up a heck of a lot in london shortly after i started there means it will be a bit of a stretch to get anything, and a large part of me doesn't want to get in to the realms of a new chunk of mortgage at my time of life, and i've not really felt settled enough in the job to want to take that step (yes i know i'm technically fortunate to be in this position) - but if i don't do it pretty damn soon i might as well forget it.

    staying local would mean i could get to mum's at weekends more, but pretty much kills off the idea of moving back to london. shall we say it's not easy to have a rational discussion about it all with mum...

    local employer is pretty highly regarded (some people on here know roughly what i do, but i'd prefer to keep any more detail off this thread) and they seem genuinely keen for me to go there and it sounds like it would be a more varied job. from a purely 'professional' angle, it's the obvious right answer.

    on a personal level, i've lived here now for 15 years but haven't ever quite felt settled.

    employer that's a somewhere between home and current job - no strong feelings either way - interview went fairly well and like the sound of the way they are wanting to develop the current set up. it's closer to home than current job, might be able to manage moving to somewhere on the western fringes of london but meh. think i'm going to decline politely.

    current employer (i've now told them i want to quit) is making noises like they want to keep me (sorting out a potential big balls up today seems to have made them more keen) and they are saying they thought i was happy not doing anything new. :hmm:

    it's a bloody long time since i was in the position of leaving a 'permanent' job for something new - maybe i'm just nervous about that.

    ETA - yes i know this is a damn sight better position to be in than many people. and there are those out there who would argue that i should think myself fortunate that i'm in a 'permanent' job at all...
  7. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Well I would think getting rid of a 2 hr commute would improve your quality of life massively. And if you could get a more interesting and varied workload with it that would be a big win too.

    I do think inertia is a big factor in this stuff. One rarely leaves a job unless there's a compelling reason to, either substantial improvement or really fucked off with existing job. Better the devil you know etc. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
  8. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    OK, so after a few month's job-hunting, I got desperate and applied to work at a previous place which I'm fairly sure I could get. On Thursday I got an appointment for a group interview and face-to-face interview on Monday. However my persistence has also generated an opportunity, in that just this afternoon (on a weekend! :facepalm:), I received an email from another prospective employer asking me to come back after a previous interview for a "short practical session" next Wednesday.

    I'm really wondering what would be the best course of action here. I remember my previous workplace got me working quite quickly. Like within a weekend, I think? That doesn't sound like I'll have much leeway to hear back from the second stage job.

    Advice sought.
  9. weltweit

    weltweit Well-Known Member

    Tricky NoXion how interesting is the second job?
  10. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    Well the second job is the kind of office-based role (vehicle data researcher, to be more specific) that I've been looking for, and it probably pays more. Salary starting at 19,000 as opposed to maybe earning £9.50/hr. I mean it seems promising that I've been asked to come back, but I'm not sure what my chances are.
  11. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    dunno really

    my general principle is usually to try and keep all options open as long as possible

    how likely is it that the monday interview is going to result in them wanting you to start within a couple of days? could you say you've got a couple of things planned this week and you can't start until monday week?
  12. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    If I can get a decision made by the second employer before the end of next week (i.e. the 6th), then I think I might be able to do that.
  13. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    this is getting slightly odd.

    current employer has not responded to my giving notice yet (I have said yes to local employer but not had anything to sign yet)

    declined west london-ish job politely (had applied for two things, other people offered first, very similar, but travel time / cost, would otherwise be happy to join you sort of thing) - they rang me today and want to talk more (didn't have a chance to ring back this afternoon)
  14. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    Got offered an alternative position with the place where I worked before. Induction isn't until the 24th, so I said yes. Haven't signed anything yet, so I have not mentioned this other thing and have something to fall back on.


    I turned up at 3pm today for a practical session after that job interview at the other place a couple of weeks ago.

    Turns out I was supposed to be there at 11am. They still went through with it for me, after letting me wait around for the guy to come back from lunch.

    Fuuuuuuuuck. Have I screwed myself?
  15. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm


    how come you got there at the wrong time? can they prove it was your fault?

    i guess the fact they went through with it rather than telling you to bugger off is a mildly positive sign, though
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  16. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    Unfortunately, they supplied me with the correct time in the email they sent me. I somehow fucking misremembered and didn't think to check. Fuck fuck fuck.

    I was really sure that it had been 3pm. Thankfully I didn't confirm my mistake until I was able to use the free wifi on the bus home to check my email, so at least I didn't have the knowledge of my mistake in my head to crimp my performance.

    Hopefully I'll be resigned enough by the end of the week when I find out, that I won't have too much of a meltdown if I don't get it. It's a decent job and I really want it!
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  17. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    in my news, the possible employer i've said 'no thanks' to is now offering more money and a few other goodies


    it also took them a week and a bit longer than they said it would after the interview for them to make a decision, which is usually a sign that they offered it to someone else first

    part of me feels like i should take their eagerness as a compliment (although i'm aware that i'm in a smallish niche, and a lot of the people in that niche who survived the cuts of the 80s are now hitting retirement age so there's possibly a shortage)

    part of me wonders what the problem is...
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  18. NoXion

    NoXion Keep an eye out for diamonds

    Update: I just got offered the job today! Despite my fuckup I got the offer! I almost can't believe it. It's the job I really wanted, not the job at the old place which was my backup plan. 19.5k salary, hours to be confirmed but it's an office job so likely nine-to-five. Only a single bus ride from home. Probably the best kind of job that someone with my kind of employment history could hope to get.

    I think I'm slightly dizzy. Gonna make myself a cup of tea...
  19. moonsi til

    moonsi til worked it out now!

    Recruitment takes a lot of effort, I manage a service & I certainly wouldn’t withdraw a job offer if someone turned up at wrong time. I would have called you though about 11.15 to see where you were & if you were coming.
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  20. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat hmm

    i seem to have accepted the (local) job which i will be starting some time in the next few weeks

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  21. Okay, this is getting ridiculous. After a very promising interview which we thought was in the bag, Himself just got rejected for being too experienced. Most rejection emails say he's not experienced enough. (Facilities assistant/ facilities management/ facilities anything). Checking today on indeed, we find he's applied for over 300 jobs. Gone to interviews, we reckon about 5-ish. Our strategies aren't working. Go for entry level, not working. Go for apprenticeships, not working.

    We're living off our savings and they're running out. We should be applying for Universal Credit but that takes 12 weeks to come through and we don't want to go back to our lives being controlled by what amounts to the Government. Plus, "I could in a job, soon, so no, we probably won't need to go on it".

    So what's an easy to get into admin job in London that he can easily get while looking for real work? Data entry these days seems to require 2 years' experience which he doesn't have. In my day as a data entry bod (late '90s, early 2000s) you could walk into a DE job no problem. He's joined agencies and not heard anything from them.

    So, two questions from this rant:
    How long does it take from applying for Universal Credit to getting paid first?
    What's an easy to get into admin-type job in London? (not "easy job", "easy to get into")

  22. sovereignb

    sovereignb Well-Known Member

    Anyone a CV wiz here? I find it very hard to list my achievements in each of my roles (mainly social care background and now investigating misconduct of healthcare professionals). If I managed budgets, worked in marketing or sales it seems like it would be much easier. It doesn't seem realistic for many jobs and then be expected to change them for each job you apply for.
  23. Sapphireblue

    Sapphireblue Well-Known Member

    i think a lot of people now go for the all the good stuff up front approach, so a section on key responsibilities and achievements at the start that covers all jobs and then a very brief summary for each job. makes it easier to change up when needed and also it helpfully implies that you've experience of all the things for a while, even if actually some of them only applied to one of the jobs.

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