The Hobbit Movie

[DotCommunist]

hmm lets see...the story was very hard to follow, too many characters some of whom had similar names....not to mention most of the movie was created in a CPU and saved on a hard disk...


Wha chu talkin bout Yosarian??

for morons yes.



Ayway Yay for Hobbit film!!!

 

[g force]

Del Toro is a great choice because the Hobbit is pretty dark in places.

 

[DotCommunist]

Del Toro is a great choice because the Hobbit is pretty dark in places.

aye the mountains of mists bit and the Trolls bit spring to mind

 

[kyser_soze]

'You are in a tunnel like hall. At the end is a yellow door'

Open door

You open the yellow door

Gandalf Enters

Fuck Gandalf

You cannot fuck Gandalf

 

[Badgers]

Now (if they produce extended versions of the new films) I will be able to sit in a darkened room for 18.94444444
hours straight (taking an average of the three LOTRs films and multiplying by five) which is made of win for me!!

 

[Reno]

You cannot fuck Gandalf

Sir Ian McKellen may well disagree

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Update - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7366375.stm

Oooh, good choice for director.

 

[DotCommunist]

Is this the right place to boast about my ancient hexagon-thing Battle of The Five Armies wargame?

mint condition too

 

[kyser_soze]

Did you know that the Imax are doing the thru the night screening of the Trilogy on May 3rd?

 

[kyser_soze]

Sir Ian McKellen may well disagree

DId you ever play 'The Hobbit' on the Spectrum?

 

[DotCommunist]

Sir Ian McKellen may well disagree

bravo

 

[Badgers]

I found that offensive ^ ^

 

[Reno]

I found that offensive ^ ^

Elderly wizards have needs too, even JK Rowling says so.

 

[krtek a houby]

Update - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7366375.stm

"According to studio New Line, the first will be an adaptation of The Hobbit, the novel Tolkien published before his Lord of the Rings cycle.

The second will be an original story focusing on the 60 years between the book and the beginning of the Rings trilogy."

Original? As in not written by Tolkien? Hmmm.

 

[Crispy]

Given Tolkien's wish to create a mythology, it seems only right that it should be built on and reinterpreted.

 

[DotCommunist]

So long as they don't rope some godawful hack in to write it.


Can you imagine Kevin J Anderson doing a Tolkien impression *shudders*

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

hmm lets see...the story was very hard to follow, too many characters some of whom had similar names....not to mention most of the movie was created in a CPU and saved on a hard disk...

What was hard to follow about it?

As for the 'it was created on a CPU' allegation. Well that is true of a great many Hollywood films these days, but the LOTR films were one film series I have seen where precisely the opposite was true; if anything if I were to criticise them about anything it would be the CGI, in every other respect they were nigh-on perfect.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

The feel of Jackson's splatter films Bad Taste and Braindead is also notably different from LOTR, as is his true crime drama Heavenly Creatures, as is his mockumentary Forgotten Silver.

In any case, so far it hasn't been announced if Jackson will direct The Hobbit. It only says he will produce it.

Wouldn't it be great it Jackson made the Hobbit in the style of Bad Taste and Brain Dead? I'd be tempted to go and see it then

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Original? As in not written by Tolkien? Hmmm.

They can backfill a bit of the story from the appendices in LotR and from some of Gandalfs exposition at the Council of Elrond. But yes, hmmm.

 

[Santino]

Please note that this version DELETES INCORRECT reference to second movie spanning time between "Hobbit" and "Rings"; New Line now says movies are based on book only.

From here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_en_mo/film_hobbit_del_toro;_ylt=AkkswapwnuYvsfHxLBn42PdxFb8C

 

[kyser_soze]

Given that Christopher Tolkien has written about a gazillion volumes of various middle earth legends and whatnot, mostly available via book clubs, there's no shortage of possible material...

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

Given that Christopher Tolkien has written about a gazillion volumes of various middle earth legends and whatnot, mostly available via book clubs, there's no shortage of possible material...

jebus, what a depressing thought

 

[krtek a houby]

From here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080425/ap_en_mo/film_hobbit_del_toro;_ylt=AkkswapwnuYvsfHxLBn42PdxFb8C

Ah, that's more like it!

 

[Random]

The second will be an original story focusing on the 60 years between the book and the beginning of the Rings trilogy."

Original? As in not written by Tolkien? Hmmm.

Part of the problem is that not much actually happens between Hobbit and LoTR. There's some shifty Cold War stuff between the White Ccuncil and Sauron, Aragorn running around getting muddy throughout Middle Earth but not really getting anything done except protecting hobbits... Balin's re-invasion of Moria is the biggie, but to dramatise that would take a lot of the depth out of the Moria bit in LOTR.

That's the problem with the books - the history stuff was all meant to be backstory, so that Sam could run around screaming 'Elbereth' and it would seem fitting. If it all gets documented in detail, as has happened, then all we've got is yet another bltatantly nordic-slash-judeo-christian mythology with the light shining through the gaps.

 

[DotCommunist]

Part of the problem is that not much actually happens between Hobbit and LoTR. There's some shifty Cold War stuff between the White Ccuncil and Sauron, Aragorn running around getting muddy throughout Middle Earth but not really getting anything done except protecting hobbits... Balin's re-invasion of Moria is the biggie, but to dramatise that would take a lot of the depth out of the Moria bit in LOTR.

That's the problem with the books - the history stuff was all meant to be backstory, so that Sam could run around screaming 'Elbereth' and it would seem fitting. If it all gets documented in detail, as has happened, then all we've got is yet another bltatantly nordic-slash-judeo-christian mythology with the light shining through the gaps.

So long as there's creatures and swordfighting and all those good fantasy trappings I couldn't give two figs.






















and at least its not Potter

 

[Random]

and at least its not Potter

it is though - Potter is the spawn of this kind of stuff.

 

[DotCommunist]

it is though - Potter is the spawn of this kind of stuff.

well yes of course. Potter crudely robs from myriad fantasy writings, with a dash of Tom Browns schooldays-type childrens boarding school fiction. The Artemis Fowl books show just how dull and uninspiring Rowlings writing is.

Tolkeins books gave birth to hell of a lot of bad imitators and a teeth-gnashingly irritating fixation on fuedalism-lite type Worlds. However he did it first and did it well. I grant you his prose style isn't everyones cup of tea and his plotting can be annoying (I know lots of people who just gave up halfway through the ponderouse Two Towers) but its a lot better than C.S Lewis' blatant christian allegories.

 

[Sunray]

They could use this... scariest bit of the whole film if they did.

 

[camouflage]

I actually think Jackson is the wrong person to direct the Hobbit. THe feel is notably different from the LOTR.

An interesting opinion, I'd thought Jackson did such a good job of the LoTRs trilogy because he captured the feel perfectly... right from the opening map scene. I think he's good at capturing "the feel" if you know what I mean...

If they made a film out of... *glances at bookshelf* Consider Phlebas, Star Maker or Resolution Gap for instance, I'd want Jackson to be in charge of it all.

 

[Reno]

I'm not a fan of Tolkien, but Peter Jackson made some reasonably entertaining fantasy epics out of the books. Still Del Toro had several projects bubbling under which I would have been much more excited about. It's a shame that he's going to be roped into the LOTR machine for the next few years now. There won't be any time for more personal projects along the line of The Devil's Backbone or Pan's Labyrinth and even his proposed Hollywood films of Lovecraft's The Mountains of Madness and a Victorian steam punk remake of Creature of the Black Lagoon sounded much more fun than this. I really think I'm over Hobbits now.