The book's excellent. FWIW, I think the series is too (though admittedly haven't watched the latest season yet).
The handmaid's' tale
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Mrs Miggins
Eternal
Yes the book is excellent Magnus McGinty . Probably, like most things, more powerful if you don't know the story before you start.
The sequel The Testaments is great too.
The sequel The Testaments is great too.
I'm about to hit episode 7. Elizabeth Moss seems to have directed most of them. There's some beautiful music as always. It's better than the previous season but no spoilers from me.
Elpenor
Datta. Dayadhvam. Damyata. Shantih Shantih Shantih
Oh is it on quicker than the channel 4 showings? Or via alternative means
Yeh I guess it's been out in the US for a while. So yeh we're up to episode 7 now on the torrents if you're that way inclined
I find that useful as I have the memory of a goldfish so have to binge stuff rather than wait a week.
Elpenor
Datta. Dayadhvam. Damyata. Shantih Shantih Shantih
Ah ok. I’m away for a few days so will have to wait regardless.Yeh I guess it's been out in the US for a while. So yeh we're up to episode 7 now on the torrents if you're that way inclined
I’ve largely given up on tv series but will finish this off for completeness
I think plausibility went out of the window in episode one, season one tbf
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
The first season is pretty close to the novel though, which is highly regarded, so what are you trying to say?
Well just that the whole thing is entirely implausible, not a criticism, it's very well made, but obvs it's not gonna be plausible, it's fiction
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Christ almighty
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I think you’re a buffoon who knows nothing about fiction.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
In a world where women's rights are getting encroached upon (in terms of being taken large steps backwards), I find that particular hot take on Handmaid's Tale (the novel, and S1 of the series which closely followed the story) difficult to digest.
Jammy smears
Pickle your knees in cheese
Didn't Margaret once say in an interview that everything in her book had happened somewhere at some point in History or have I dreamt that?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
No, you are absolutely right.
The problem with the series wasn't the political directions that Gilead and other nations around it behaved, it was the implausibility of various characters acting particular ways (without wanting too say too much) and suddenly appearing in places they'd never be able to get to.
Jammy smears
Pickle your knees in cheese
True but I think that is probably true for every show that I have ever watched, characters behaving in odd ways given their situation, getting away with stuff that would be impossible, surviving when they should be dead. The usual implausible tropes, artistic license to make the plot move along I guess.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
I haven't watched any of the current season yet, I need to be in the right frame of mind and probably re-watch the previous season because I can't recall what happened.
The book just had such a profound effect on me when I first read it, and I wonder whether people who didn't read it or maybe for whatever reason it didn't have that personal impact might not see the TV series in the same way as I do (similarly affecting, I think what I've seen of it has been exceptional, even when it was from S2 onwards going beyond the bounds of the book).
I seem to recall when I first read it I could barely speak afterwards for a few days.
The book just had such a profound effect on me when I first read it, and I wonder whether people who didn't read it or maybe for whatever reason it didn't have that personal impact might not see the TV series in the same way as I do (similarly affecting, I think what I've seen of it has been exceptional, even when it was from S2 onwards going beyond the bounds of the book).
I seem to recall when I first read it I could barely speak afterwards for a few days.
Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
I'm just rewatching season 5 ready to embark on season 6 (not sure I watched all of season 5 when it was first aired, I often save stuff until the story has been finished!)
Am I supposed to be really unsympathetic to Luke and his fear and his whining when June is so strong (even if some of her reactions are slightly driven by PTSD at this stage?)
Because he needs to grow the fuck up, when they were both captured he's fucking losing his shit - she's the one who is looking at being sent back to institutionalised rape or potentially execution and she's having to comfort and reassure him because he's being a complete big fucking baby about the situation, it's HER facing possibly the worst of it, SHE's been through hell and back, and she's the one reassuring him and telling him to be strong.
Then he just wants revenge on Serena for what June went through, and does it in a very cack-handed way, without discussion, just a unilateral decision.
I actually thought it was really well done because that's often the way it is IRL but any respect I had left for him at that point fled very quickly.
Maybe he'll come around and do something heroic later on
MUCH LATER EDIT TO ADD: Like shutting the fuck up and not criticising June for her actions
Am I supposed to be really unsympathetic to Luke and his fear and his whining when June is so strong (even if some of her reactions are slightly driven by PTSD at this stage?)
Because he needs to grow the fuck up, when they were both captured he's fucking losing his shit - she's the one who is looking at being sent back to institutionalised rape or potentially execution and she's having to comfort and reassure him because he's being a complete big fucking baby about the situation, it's HER facing possibly the worst of it, SHE's been through hell and back, and she's the one reassuring him and telling him to be strong.
Then he just wants revenge on Serena for what June went through, and does it in a very cack-handed way, without discussion, just a unilateral decision.
I actually thought it was really well done because that's often the way it is IRL but any respect I had left for him at that point fled very quickly.
Maybe he'll come around and do something heroic later on
MUCH LATER EDIT TO ADD: Like shutting the fuck up and not criticising June for her actions
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Epona
Radar 2006-2020, Sonic 2006-2022, Jakey 2007-2024
I've just got to the end of season 5
and actually I fucking swear if Luke does actually go and rescue her I'm going to be at risk of dropkicking my tv through an open window - this is not a "man rescues woman" drama situation and I hope to fuck it doesn't become that in season 6. I WANT Luke and Nick to be ridiculously incompetent and remain being the tools of their various patriarchal upbringings and states, and for the women (not just June) to save themselves.
I might be a bit too invested in this
But in a way we all need to be invested in it because it's not seeming like so much of a stretch to think this sort of might be the situation in some places within our lifetimes.
and actually I fucking swear if Luke does actually go and rescue her I'm going to be at risk of dropkicking my tv through an open window - this is not a "man rescues woman" drama situation and I hope to fuck it doesn't become that in season 6. I WANT Luke and Nick to be ridiculously incompetent and remain being the tools of their various patriarchal upbringings and states, and for the women (not just June) to save themselves.
I might be a bit too invested in this
But in a way we all need to be invested in it because it's not seeming like so much of a stretch to think this sort of might be the situation in some places within our lifetimes.
