belboid
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The Growth of Supervisory Jobs, and its Affect on Class Struggle
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belboid
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trying to outdo Zachor with by telling the biggest load of shite on the board today?
bosses love people like you.
no one else does.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
You really have got no counter-argument to this other than insults and projections have you, bellboid? None at all whatsoever. Not a single point to make.
nightbreed
Im Bored
How can we have a counter argument against a non argument?
audiotech
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Yep, you change facts all the time to fit your narrow cynical mindset.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I have, you just ignore them, and make things up.
simple fact - not one person on here, or the whole world wide web has ever voiced support for your contentions, especially about 'corporate stockholm syndrome', except for scabs and other right-wingers.
You cannot come up with a single evidenced fact or any stats or anything to back you up. Yet it is everyone else who is 'ignoring reality'!
By their friends shall ye know them.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
People like them would rather this board resembled their own bizarre lives: full of people saying the same thing as they do while they all remain blissfully untroubled by anyone bringing grim news of the real world outside their own politically-sealed, self-delusional bunker.
This is part of the reason I can't be bothered to come on here as often as I used to. There's no rational argument you can make with people like that which can break through their own circular, closed-loop of logic. It's a complete waste of time arguing with the religiously-deluded - as much of the left now pretty much is.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
so where are the others who agree with you? If CSS and your other claims are so commonplace, you'd have thought that one person would have come along and backed you up after all these years.
But, scabs excluded, no one has.
The reason you don't come on here is cos you get hammered every single time.
But, scabs excluded, no one has.
The reason you don't come on here is cos you get hammered every single time.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
This section of the board is about as representative of the workplace as you and the rest of the left are.
The Education & Employment branch comes a bit closer to an accurate reflection of the state of things. Odd how most of the UKP&P stalwarts give that area a wide berth...
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
arf arf
So unrepresentative there are people from all kinds of workplace and none, the vast majority of whom aren't part of the left you left behind long long ago, and yet NONE of them, not a single one, agree's with your bollocks. Unless they are scabs. And you are still so arrogant as to insist that you are the only one who's right.
Not one single supporter, not on single bit of statistical evidence to back you up, nothing but pister342002's assertions.
I still pop into E&E quite regularly actually, and there is NOTHING n there to support you either. No one else mentions anything like CSS or pretends that most of their colleagues thinks that they are bosses. Only you.
Still, I suppose you have to maintain some kind of fantasy life for yourself when you're on your knee's sucking the bosses cock.
So unrepresentative there are people from all kinds of workplace and none, the vast majority of whom aren't part of the left you left behind long long ago, and yet NONE of them, not a single one, agree's with your bollocks. Unless they are scabs. And you are still so arrogant as to insist that you are the only one who's right.
Not one single supporter, not on single bit of statistical evidence to back you up, nothing but pister342002's assertions.
I still pop into E&E quite regularly actually, and there is NOTHING n there to support you either. No one else mentions anything like CSS or pretends that most of their colleagues thinks that they are bosses. Only you.
Still, I suppose you have to maintain some kind of fantasy life for yourself when you're on your knee's sucking the bosses cock.
audiotech
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I graduated from university in May 2007. In August 2007 I had a manic episode (I suffer from bipolar disorder). I was hospitalised for a month. When I left hospital still dozy from all the sedatives I was taking I had to go back to work because I had not paid enough NI contributions to qualify for incapacity benefit and because I have a partner in work I couldn't claim income support or housing benefit. I had to go back to work at my local art gallery where I was a steward. It was easy but boring work. After this I did work through agencies doing 'head counts' of rooms at Manchester University and being a medical records clerk in a local hospital (at which I was shit, I could never find the dammned files). Since then I have worked for two call centres and a company that deals with trafficnews. I am currently 'laid off' for a month from my present job because I was crap at it and had to be moved onto 'other' duties that don't start until January 2009. In all these jobs the highest rate of pay I have had is £8.00/hour (and that was doing split shifts 6-10 in the morning and 3-7 in the afternoon). My ambition is to go back to university and try to launch an academic career but the prospects are not great. I have to try and get a funded Phd which is a pretty tall order when you only have a 2.1 in your first degree). I would love to work in something cultural like being an academic/a gallery curator/a further education tutor in sociology but all these things require further study/poverty/struggle and hardship to achieve and even then job prospects in all these areas are quite slim. I recently went to an anarchist bookfair in Manchester and one of the people i met was an anarchist and pacifist archaeologist. I have noticed i think from IWW literature that some of their work seems to be focussed around education. In my opinion it is hard for people like me who lack any saleable skill like teaching to get jobs that pay more than £12,000 a year. Thus I can see the motivation of people wanting to climb a career ladder however paltry the titles for a bit of extra money. It is ok being a teacher and being an anarchist because you probably earn (i am guessing) £25,000 but for an anarchist who is an office worker or a call centre operative being able to get off the basic £12,000 is very attractive thus probably why people feel attracted to pseudo-management positions. I think this highlights a more general problem with UK society. It is highly consumerist, into property owning, pseudo-middle class (we all shop at Marks and Spencers). But the choices for people on the front line are real. Would you really want to be earning £12,000 and being an activist. It is easy to say you want to be a grassroots activist if you are in a profession and earning a comfortable basic salary. I think you have to be a very special person to commit to earning poverty wages for your principles. I am not sure I could do it.
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