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The grimness of New Brighton seaside resort in 1980s by Martin Parr

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by editor, Sep 20, 2017.

  1. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  2. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    There's something exploitative about his photos that doesn't sit well with me, even though they're very well composed.
     
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  3. S☼I

    S☼I unhailed warden of a fled campestral

    Just looks like the holidays I had as a kid tbh. Not sure what's particularly grim about it.
     
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  4. Yossarian

    Yossarian free shrugs

    I thought they were great photos, so evocative that I spent a while looking for the young me in the background because it looks exactly like I remember it, apart from the water maybe not being quite so bad most of the time.
     
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  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The pier scene showing the water full of rubbish is a clue, I think.
    I think they're brilliant. Fantastic reportage.
     
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  6. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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    Eeek!

    They also remind me of Barry Island when I was kid. That was pretty bleak too, with the water polluted from the nearby docks.
     
  7. cybershot

    cybershot Well-Known Member

    Kind of agree, it was just, the 80s!
     
  8. blossie33

    blossie33 trailer trash

    According to the magazine article he wasn't meaning to portray NB in a derogatory way - he was actually attracted to it's litter and energy.
    I agree with what you say though, I find them a bit depressing to look at, interesting though.
    I can't ever remember visiting any seaside place with so much rubbish about!
     
  9. Miss-Shelf

    Miss-Shelf Up to my tits in quilts

    NB is a lot tidier these days
     
  10. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

    it's not just the mess that he seems to be presenting as grim though, it's more 'look at these povs living a grim life, even their holidays are grim'
     
  11. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I don't think Martin Parr's work does that. He just captures a lot of working class life and leaves it up the viewer to form an opinion of what's being shown.
     
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  12. clicker

    clicker nanook rubs it....

    Love the detail in those, even spotted a two litre bottle of Rola Cola. The colours remind me of Edward Scissorhands.
     
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  13. blossie33

    blossie33 trailer trash

    I do like Martin Parr's photographs, there was a great exhibition of his work at Somerset House as part of the Sony Photo Awards earlier this year.
     
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  14. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

    I think he's sneering at the people he photographs - not very nice IMHO.
     
  15. Ming

    Ming Massive prawns

    This is where i grew up (at the time these photos were taken). Honestly i loved the place. Used to drive over and smoke weed down the sea front at New Brighton with mates all the time (especially when stormy). I remember going to the Berni Inn there with my mum and dad regularly (when the lady bird epidemic happened in 1976 i remember crunching up the stairs...didn't put me off my steak though). Also my dad was mates with Bill Wilke who owned The New Palace amusements arcade. My folks had their wedding reception at The Creep Inn which i was given a life long membership off (but it closed before i was old enough to get in...lol!).
    The Creep Inn Nightclub - Hidden Wirral Myths & Legends
    ETA: Fuck its reopened...i'll have to search for my card.
     
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  16. Ming

    Ming Massive prawns

    I seem to remember a lot of white dog shit on the beach though (and ring pulls).
     
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  17. tim

    tim Well-Known Member

    I went there once on the mid-eighties, and not only was there no sand, but there didn't seem to be a beach either. In contrast my memories of Southport was a seemingly endless beach and no sea.
     
  18. Ming

    Ming Massive prawns

    West Kirkby for the marine lake and good pubs! New Brighton is rough though. But it's fun.

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  19. Ming

    Ming Massive prawns

    Not much of a beach at New Brighton though, agreed.

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  20. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    The trouble with this and similar criticisms is that they themselves require a sort of patronising view of the subject - to see these scenes as primarily grim & negative rather than people having a good time at the seaside. Ask yourself if the people depicted would be/have been embarrassed or ashamed of their lot, or proud, or neither.
     
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  21. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    Anyway, I saw this photo collection a long time ago, maybe 15 years now, and of all the various exhibitions in that time, it's the one that sticks in my mind as the best, on a few levels - the strength of style, theme and subject. Definitely worth trying to see as much of this stuff as you can.
     
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  22. davesgcr

    davesgcr Reading books

    I went up there a few weeks ago (free rail travel helps) , much improved , but sadly all the interesting things are gone - Tower / Pier etc - pre day out "paradise" , it must have been a very decent place to live with some fine 19thC houses etc catering for wealthy sea captains etc.

    A workmate of mine - way back - said his mother used to go there for music etc in the 1960's and she said it was a bit like Beirut .....
     
  23. dessiato

    dessiato Philippians 4:8

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