Grandma Death
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jugularvein said:
You wont get any disagreement from me on that one.
The Greatest War Movie Ever?
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You wont get any disagreement from me on that one.
Johnny Canuck3
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Catch 22
Johnny Canuck3
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Apocalypse Now is one of my favourite movies, but it isn't really a war movie.
King Rat is a good POW movie.
For good action/adventure war, The Dirty Dozen.
My other fave war movie is Kelly's Heroes. I'll have to find it in some bargain bin and pick it up.
King Rat is a good POW movie.
For good action/adventure war, The Dirty Dozen.
My other fave war movie is Kelly's Heroes. I'll have to find it in some bargain bin and pick it up.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I watched the Big Red One last night - Yankee shit. Amd i wanted to like it as i like Sam Fuller. But no, the nuances were mortar bombed and the narrative was unlikey to say the least.
Come and See by a mile - (i started this not Ern, i was first)
Come and See by a mile - (i started this not Ern, i was first)
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I have a point nonethe less, as would Ivan Eh?
i_hate_beckham
Him From A Village
Why isnt A Bridge to Far on the list when shit like Apocolypse Now and Deerhunter are on there??
Grandma Death
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i_hate_beckham said:
Because:-
welshDJ said:
Also please note there is an option for 'other'
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Johnny Canuck2 said:
Eh
Johnny Canuck3
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welshDJ said:Eh
It's based on Heart of Darkness, and the basic themes aren't really about war. They just take place in a war setting. In the book, they take place in a jungle/colonial setting.
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Johnny Canuck2 said:
Yes but you said it isnt a 'war movie'.
The source material may not be but the film certainly is.
EatMoreChips
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jugularvein said:
"Broadsword calling Danny Boy..."
The last thing you want in a war film is anything vaguely resembling realism, so Where Eagles Dare is quite obviously the bestest ever.
As far as films go - The Longest Day - Lord Moffat leading the relief to Pegasus Bridge with the pipes playing...
On TV the show Band of Brothers was absolutely fantastic, they used the same filming methods as Saving Private Ryan. Left you breathless after each combat scene.
On TV the show Band of Brothers was absolutely fantastic, they used the same filming methods as Saving Private Ryan. Left you breathless after each combat scene.
Juice Terry
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Lawrence of Arabia - class above almost every film mentioned so far.
Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Stalingard
A Bridge to Far
Breaker Morant
Come & See
The Battle of Britain
Cross of Iron
Waterloo
Zulu
Full Metal Jacket
A Bridge to Far
Breaker Morant
Come & See
The Battle of Britain
Cross of Iron
Waterloo
Zulu
Full Metal Jacket
stdPikachu
Plughole in bathtub curve
jugularvein said:
Fuck yes, it's what James Bond would (should?) have been like if Connery was half as good as Burton. Of course the plot is ridiculous (although very heavily written and kinda plausible in a war movie way), but the set pieces and stunts are utterly superb, and it holds its length well. Even if you can't keep a track of the plot, there's enough gunfights, explosions and cable-car high-jinks to keep a goldfish entertained.
anfield said:
Another great flick, about the general troublemaker Douglas Bader who lost both his legs in a flying accident and went on to become one of the most talked about pilots of WW2, as well as attempting repeated escape attempts from Colditz after he was catured - the Germans eventually had to confiscate his metal legs every night to stop him trying to escape.
The Longest Day has to get a mention because, despite it sometimes being dubbed as "how AMerica won the war for Britain" it's not overly pushy on the morality front and does a fairly good job of highlighting the mistakes made by both sides in the run-up to D-Day, as well as making a good mention of all the non-British/US fighters that were involved, especially the French Resistance who were utterly crucial to the landings and yet don't seem to make it into a lagre slice of war movies. Some good performances all over, especially on the German side - it was quite fun to play "spot the Bond villain" with Curd Jürgens (The spy who loved me) and Gert Fröbe (Goldfinger).
Special mention also has to go to Ice Cold in Alex, the story of an ambulance crew trying to escape Rommel's onslaught across Africa in order to grab a nice beer in Alexandria. It's not horridly patriotic and eschews "enemies" in lieu of a group of people fighting against the desert itself, and the crew's treatment of Van der Poole once they figure he's a German spy shows that, even in war, there's always need for tolerance of your foe (incidentally, Rommel and the Afrika Corps were noted for being possibly the most chivalrous fighters of WW2, allowing gaps in fighting for enemies to remove their wounded from the battlefield, etc.)
Best wat film ever though has to be Das Boot. No other film I've seen has conveyed the stark terror of sitting in a squalid tin can being bombed so well - it's a truly nail-biting experience supported by some fine performances like the inestimable Jurgen Prochnow and the splendid guy who played the mechanic (Johann?) who went mad - the look on his face the U-boat is crippled is fucking incredible. If you haven't seen this, do so - and get a subtitled version, not dubbed.
As far as Vietnam movies go, many of them seem all too romanticised for my liking. Full Metal Jacket has to be the only one I've seen that I'll eagerly re-watch because it puts so much emphasis on the "de-humanising" process. Apocalypse is OK, although it seemed a little hackneyed. Platoon just irritated me.
P.S. well done to JC2 for mentioning the insanity that is Niccol's Catch 22. Although the "comedy" elements can seem a bit laboured at times, it does a great job of highlighting just how mad half the war was - usually at the expense of lives.
TheLostProphet said:When the guards strike up Men of Harlech, I always get a little bit of a sniff on.
Bloody love Zulu me.
"Zulus sir, faaaaaauuuuuuuuuusaannds of them"
You are so totally right.
When Lieutenant Chard says 'You think Welshmen can't do better than that?' and they sing Men of Harlech the tears flow. It is impossible to feel depressed or a bit down if you have just stuck Zulu on. The best film ever bar none.
Right - a large scotch and the defence of rorke's Drift is in order again.
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bushphobia
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S[peilberg and ww2 just don't cut it for me. He completly lost it by the time he was making crap like always imho.
FAve war films are paths of glory, Das boot, The thin red line and Zulu, with the immortal thesp Micheal "i told you not to blow the bloody doors off" Caine. No shmaltz. No Spileberg. No problem. Lol
FAve war films are paths of glory, Das boot, The thin red line and Zulu, with the immortal thesp Micheal "i told you not to blow the bloody doors off" Caine. No shmaltz. No Spileberg. No problem. Lol
nightowl said:
Juice Terry
rama lama fa fa fa
Found an excellent web site about Rorkes Drift the other day, which has a section on the film and highlights some of the inaccuracies, such as the fact that most of the troops were in fact English not Welsh.
Rorkes Drift
"The film also featured on the fact that it was a Welsh regiment. Although it was then based in Brecon in South Wales and called the 24th. Regiment of Foot (later to be the South Wales Borderers), it was formerly the Warwickshire Regiment. Many of the defenders had never been to Brecon. Of the 24th. Regt. at the defence, 49 were English, 16 Irish, 1 Scottish, 32 Welsh and 24 of other Nationalities."
Rorkes Drift
"The film also featured on the fact that it was a Welsh regiment. Although it was then based in Brecon in South Wales and called the 24th. Regiment of Foot (later to be the South Wales Borderers), it was formerly the Warwickshire Regiment. Many of the defenders had never been to Brecon. Of the 24th. Regt. at the defence, 49 were English, 16 Irish, 1 Scottish, 32 Welsh and 24 of other Nationalities."
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