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*The Great U75 Politics Reading List Thread.

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Idris2002, Jul 23, 2003.

  1. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Wow, i have to get it now after such an expansive overview of what it's about and what it it argues.
     
  2. Harry Webb

    Harry Webb Banned Banned

    It should fit in your handbag too.
     
  3. Harry Webb

    Harry Webb Banned Banned

    Considering you've spent the past decade typing well over 100,000 posts on this forum I suggest you browse the self-help section first.
     
  4. Dr Jon

    Dr Jon so many beers, too little time Banned

    Going South - why Britain will have a third world economy by 2014.
    - Larry Elliot & Dan Atkinson.
     
  5. Kate Sharpley

    Kate Sharpley Well-Known Member

    What butchersapron said, but you're probably more likely to find a copy of the original 1940 first edition (30-50 pounds on abe at the moment) than the reprint.
     
  6. SpineyNorman

    SpineyNorman it was already like that when I got here

    Can anyone offer any recommendations on the Paris Commune? I know next to nothing about it so introductory stuff would be good - but I'm going to be studying it as my specialist subject next year so more focused stuff will definitely come in useful too.

    I've been lent The Fall of Paris by Alistair Horne, which from a quick flick through looks like a fairly standard liberal account, and History of the Paris Commune of 1871 by Prosper Olivier Lissagaray, which appears to be an eyewitness account - anyone know if they're any good?

    Thanks.

    I don't think I'd get away with passing off other peoples views as my own due to plagiarism rules so the Laurie Penny 'ask twitter' strategy isn't really an option :(
     
  7. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    The Horne one is more military than anything but is a good book. The Lissagaray book is one of the best from below accounts of any radical uprising ever. Frank Jellinek did one for the Left Book Club in the 30s which is still good and you can easily enough avoid/spot his stalinist/pop front sympathies. Stewart Edwards wrote an account that is weird mix of liberalism/whiggism and romanticism. For interesting context Roger Magraw did a marxist-luddite account of the surrounding period. But the main thing is...read Lissagaray!!!!!
     
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  8. Idris2002

    Idris2002 A kick up the Arás

    Interesting review/critique of that book here:

    http://lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster65/lob65-going-south.pdf

    Lobster mag seems to be heading for outer realms of conspiraloonery, alas, but the review was pretty persuasive, I thought.
     
  9. SpineyNorman

    SpineyNorman it was already like that when I got here

    Great stuff, cheers mate :)
     
  10. el-ahrairah

    el-ahrairah forward communism, forward gerbils!

    yeah, i;ve added that to the wishlist based on that review :D
     
  11. cyprusclean

    cyprusclean Active Member

    How's the Pirate Party doing in the UK?

    Am I in the correct place, as there is a thread ordnung it seems to me?
     
  12. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    You're on the wrong thread, and the pirate party is not doing anything. Beyond Loz Kaye wearing an assange face mask.
     
  13. cyprusclean

    cyprusclean Active Member

    If I'm on the wrong thread, why respond to me? And why not direct me to the right one; if there is a right one. This forum is about politics, is it not?
     
  14. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    To tell you that you are on the wrong thread. That's why.

    And there isn't a right one or i would have directed you to it.
     
  15. cyprusclean

    cyprusclean Active Member


    I'll give you a wide berth then.

    Friendly place isn't it? :)
     
  16. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    Maybe you should learn the difference between 'forum' and 'thread'? Just a thought.
     
  17. cyprusclean

    cyprusclean Active Member

    That's helpful of you, if not a tad gratuitous.
     
  18. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Well, it's not exactly difficult to differentiate betwen a thread and a forum, and posting a question about the Pirate Party on a thread entitled "The Great Urban Politics Reading List Thread" does seem either a foolish or wilfully ignorant act.
     
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  19. cyprusclean

    cyprusclean Active Member


    Not that it matters.......:hmm:
     
  20. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

  21. belboid

    belboid TUC Off Your Knees

    It's interesting because it's subject matter is interesting, but it's a fairly conservative take on those subjects denying any real radicalism, and saying everything happens in a nice, evolutionary way, which is why we have the bestest democracy in the world.
     
  22. SpineyNorman

    SpineyNorman it was already like that when I got here

    I'm reading the Edwards one now - I wasn't expecting to but I'm really enjoying it - well worth the £5 or so I paid for it on amazon.
     
  23. J Ed

    J Ed I remember the future

    Just finished reading this, really interesting insight into an aspect of the Civil Right Movement I was totally unaware of.
     
  24. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Have a look at Deacons for Defence too. I have copies of Williams pamphlets and stuff i need to upload asap as well. Whole battle with people like this that MLK engaged in and used every tactic they could to undermine. Now hidden in favour of a bullshit peaceful march to civil rights narrative.
     
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  25. SpineyNorman

    SpineyNorman it was already like that when I got here

    Anyone got anything to recommend on 'post-development'? I've got to do a 7000 word project, title of my choice, on development and I'm seriously considering doing a Marxist critique of post-development. So I'm interested in key texts from its adherents but also if any Marxists have critiqued or commented on it I'd be very interested in seeing what they have to say.
     
  26. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

  27. benedict

    benedict Well-Known Member

    I read it last year. It was actually quite a let-down. Mostly due to what I felt was a poor writing style and a tendency to throw loads of names at the reader at the expense of a clear exposition of events.
     
  28. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Something else you may be interested in. Akinyele Omowale Umoja has published We Will Shoot Back: Armed Resistance in the Mississippi Freedom Movement.


    I have put a not very good but perfectly readable version of this here (warning it's around 170mb - better and smaller version on way though) and a academic article outlining the thesis here.
     
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  29. J Ed

    J Ed I remember the future

  30. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

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