ViolentPanda
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Told you not to swallow when you fellated Hermes, didn't I?
The Future of Christianity?
- Thread starter phildwyer
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Told you not to swallow when you fellated Hermes, didn't I?
For once I find myself agreeing with what you have to say Phil. Although I must say that much of it is assumption albeit inteligently so.
If organised religion and rational empiricism have both had their day. What is the third way?
The pragmatism of the enlightenment and the mysticism of religion are both still prevelant forces in society.
It is my feeling, and if you like assumption. (Seeing as this thread was started with a few.
) That these two influences combined lead society towards a sort of pragmatic mysticism seen in much new age thought.
What is practical spiritually then?
In the end we just want to feel good. It could be argued that any personal belief that enpowers us to reach more of that feeling and greater personal freedom is eminently practical.
It may be that society, having realised on some level that religion was disempowering each of us. Reached into a spiritual void and latched onto a form of empirical materialism which inevitably left a hole for some.
The new synthesis is in my opinion personal spirituality. By which I mean whatever belief it is that empowers us individually.
This seems to me to be a positive step. After all we can only give to each other what we have already attained for ourselves
If organised religion and rational empiricism have both had their day. What is the third way?
The pragmatism of the enlightenment and the mysticism of religion are both still prevelant forces in society.
It is my feeling, and if you like assumption. (Seeing as this thread was started with a few.
) That these two influences combined lead society towards a sort of pragmatic mysticism seen in much new age thought.What is practical spiritually then?
In the end we just want to feel good. It could be argued that any personal belief that enpowers us to reach more of that feeling and greater personal freedom is eminently practical.
It may be that society, having realised on some level that religion was disempowering each of us. Reached into a spiritual void and latched onto a form of empirical materialism which inevitably left a hole for some.
The new synthesis is in my opinion personal spirituality. By which I mean whatever belief it is that empowers us individually.
This seems to me to be a positive step. After all we can only give to each other what we have already attained for ourselves
RubberBuccaneer
Hedd Wyn
I think Christianity will adopt Islamic ideas about a faceless God, and leave Jesus to rest in peace, OK as an icon to project onto but nothing else. Ideas of virgin births,resurrection will no longer matter.
Of course this causes deep division, but a new Islamo/Christian/Pagan hybrid will emerge from the people who can break with their pasts, possibly led by physicists and Hawkins as their leader.
Of course this causes deep division, but a new Islamo/Christian/Pagan hybrid will emerge from the people who can break with their pasts, possibly led by physicists and Hawkins as their leader.
What, like the Orange Catholic Bible?RubberBuccaneer said:
RubberBuccaneer
Hedd Wyn
I think it'll be pure Islam without any cultural references ( after all as a Welshman , I don't follow middle Eastern religions ), and would be called something else, so as to be inclusive ( you could say all the cores of major religions point to this, even Christainity, as the Jesus saviour figure was an invention by the early church founders not Christ himself ).
Physicists would also convert, realise or discover, as God is there you don't invent God you discover God.
There is no need for any organised priesthood or ceremonies as everyone has a direct link to God.
Likewise there is no need to pray, this God is non interventionalist, It'll do you no good. 'Inshallah' or 'Gods will' is just another way of saying 'That's life' or 'shit happens'. What else do you expect?, you are responsible for your own actions.
In short , God is there, neither helping or hindering.
In fact it would be a great religion for atheists.
Physicists would also convert, realise or discover, as God is there you don't invent God you discover God.
There is no need for any organised priesthood or ceremonies as everyone has a direct link to God.
Likewise there is no need to pray, this God is non interventionalist, It'll do you no good. 'Inshallah' or 'Gods will' is just another way of saying 'That's life' or 'shit happens'. What else do you expect?, you are responsible for your own actions.
In short , God is there, neither helping or hindering.
In fact it would be a great religion for atheists.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Surely this thread should be retitled "The Ego of phildwyer: is there a future in it"?
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Phil's denunciation would have looked a lot better written in green ink and if it'd quoted from various texts on excorsim if you ask me.Crispy said:
But no one did
RubberBuccaneer said:
Well that's certainly what Muslims say. As Christianity does to Judaism, Islam claims to have superseeded and incorporated Christianity. Christians point out that Jews are silly to believe that God would reveal Himself to just one people, while Muslims point out that Christians are silly to believe that Yeshua of Nazareth was God incarnate. Trouble is, I reckon Mulsims are silly to believe that Mohammed was the *last* prophet. How can there be a last prophet? I reckon prophecy is a continuous revelation, it can't ever stop.
nino_savatte
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You're the *last* prophet, aren't you phil?
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
No, you think you are. I was merely sending you up.
Still trying to convince everyone that ID is a goer?
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
LOL!!!!! What a dick.
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
There's evidence of your half-baked notions all over this forum, phil. Are you trying to tell me that the evidence is wrong? It rather speaks for itself.
It's no good trying to get the audience on your side, you lost them ages ago.
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
Are you still here, phil? Anyone would think you've nothing better to do with yourself.
It's a little cold under that bridge today - isn't it?
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
You do realise that repetition is a sign of a serious mental illness, don't you?
Of course not - you think your shit doesn't stink.
nino_savatte
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phildwyer said:
Oh, I'm soo scared, phil. What are you going to do, hit me with your soiled nappy?
You're still repeating yourself btw. What next? Echolalia?
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