Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
ladyjmx said:
beacuse I can write a decent standard of english?
because I can write a decent standard of English?
Not even going to bother with the rest of the post/posts
The Future of Brixton
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beacuse I can write a decent standard of english?
because I can write a decent standard of English?
Not even going to bother with the rest of the post/posts
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Blagsta said:
I've not believed a word from the start either
Blagsta said:
Blagsta, why don't you address the questions she raises rather than obsessing over whether she's a troll, you silly geek. What she says *is* representative of a huge body of opinion in Brixton, and her concerns deserve our full consideration. Or would you rather pontificate some more about your disastrous efforts as a "drugs worker?"
hungry 4 kicks
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Blagsta said:
OK I'm starting to see potential holes in authenticity. . . unless she can give some substance to her claimed identity. . .
Sorry to be so cynical, but I can't be bothered to waste my time responding if they're not who they say they are....
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
ladyjmx said:
dont - don't
Honestly,
education today eh? phildwyer said:
Is it Phil? What do you base that opinion on - the special phildwyer hotline that you keep hooked up to the heartblood of Brixton from Philly?
I don't think the perception is half as scathing as that ime. Many of my relatives and other friends have no regrets about leaving Brixton, in fact many were glad to get out. That's not my view - I moved back as soon as I could from Streatham - but it's far from atypical.
Arguably I hear more white people and recent incomers to Brixton complaining about folk being displaced, as if they feel they have stick up for others (patronising mode) 'less fortunate than themselves.
There is some resentment undoubtedly, but it's not half as pronouced as some uninformed folks would have you believe.
miss minnie
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i've lived here for just over 22 years. am i, a white person, part of your community?ladyjmx said:
tarannau said:
I'm afraid that this doesn't fit my experience or that of my acquaintances in Brixton. Nor is it logical. The people who complain most about people being displaced are... wait for it... the people who *are* being displaced! Quelle surprise, eh? And in Brixton, that means poor people, who can't pay the increased rents, and those people are disproportionately black.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
Bit of a weird reception this. Far as I can tell, there's no suspect motives going on here. Sounds like a genuine person. If she starts making injokes that only long-time posters would come up with or something similar, then maybe I'd be suspicious...
As for the actual topic: People in an area are being 'forced out' by new arrivals. This happens everywhere, but the 'dividing line' is not between white and black, but rich and poor. Unfortunately, due to hundreds of years of pretty standard human shittiness, white/rich and poor/black are statistically related. Seeing as there's still plenty of that shittiness around, a problem that has its roots in money and capitalism is worsened by racism and suspicion. Vicous circle
As for the actual topic: People in an area are being 'forced out' by new arrivals. This happens everywhere, but the 'dividing line' is not between white and black, but rich and poor. Unfortunately, due to hundreds of years of pretty standard human shittiness, white/rich and poor/black are statistically related. Seeing as there's still plenty of that shittiness around, a problem that has its roots in money and capitalism is worsened by racism and suspicion. Vicous circle
miss minnie
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that really doesn't help things, does it?Blagsta said:
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
ladyjmx, I imagine the thing that makes people suspect is mainly that your first post is about such a controversal issue for this forum where arguments go round and round, often turn abusive, and then get binned. I normally stay clear of them myself for exactly those reasons. I personally am somewhat sceptical but on the other hand, as I usually feel in these situations, I'd feel pretty shitty for not believing someone if they are on the level, so I'm choosing not to worry about it at the moment. If you are interested in proving to people that you're genuine maybe it might help describing how you heard about the site, what you want to come from this thread etc. I imagine if you are genuine a bunfight isn't really what you're looking for?ladyjmx said:
As for the issue up for discussion, I agree with Crispy.
Crispy said:Bit of a weird reception this. Far as I can tell, there's no suspect motives going on here. Sounds like a genuine person. If she starts making injokes that only long-time posters would come up with or something similar, then maybe I'd be suspicious...
As for the actual topic: People in an area are being 'forced out' by new arrivals. This happens everywhere, but the 'dividing line' is not between white and black, but rich and poor. Unfortunately, due to hundreds of years of pretty standard human shittiness, white/rich and poor/black are statistically related. Seeing as there's still plenty of that shittiness around, a problem that has its roots in money and capitalism is worsened by racism and suspicion. Vicous circle
Exactly. My point, on this as on other threads, is that it is foolish and misleading just to claim--as many have--that race is not a factor, or that many new arrivals to Brixton are not unconsciously racist or (which comes to the same thing) nervous around black people. That is simply *true,* and we have seen plenty of evidence of it on here lately.
Nah. Bugger off Minnie.
I think the misconception is that Brixton has been entirely dominated by black culture since the West Indian (Windrush) influx. Not entirely true in my experience - not least for the (apparently disproportionately high) number of asian, chinese and white west indians who emigrated at the same time to the same areas. Add to that Brixton's 'native' population with strong Irish and Portuguese roots
What's probably fairer to say is that there's a far greater divide between rich and poor now. Not just in Brixton mind, but perhaps it's more pronounced here, where families mixed far more in the past.
I think the misconception is that Brixton has been entirely dominated by black culture since the West Indian (Windrush) influx. Not entirely true in my experience - not least for the (apparently disproportionately high) number of asian, chinese and white west indians who emigrated at the same time to the same areas. Add to that Brixton's 'native' population with strong Irish and Portuguese roots
What's probably fairer to say is that there's a far greater divide between rich and poor now. Not just in Brixton mind, but perhaps it's more pronounced here, where families mixed far more in the past.
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Hmmm, I'm not sure that was exactly what Crispy was saying, though I agree that of course there must be some white people moving to Brixton who are subconsiously racist. On the other hand the assumption that all white people moving to Brixton are racist is in itself a racist statement.phildwyer said:
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