The Fatwah Programme

[moono]

Those wanting to see justice for the Palestinians should attack American support for Zionism at every opportunity. Drawing attention to the Zionist contempt for international law and their frequent atrocities against other Semites is a good starting point, although criticism and disapproval are becoming more commonplace in academic circles , for example the Harvard paper on the Israel Lobby and President Carter's recent book.

The criticism and disapproval quickly turn to revulsion when the situation is examined in more depth .

 

[derf]

Those wanting to see justice for the Palestinians should attack American support for Zionism at every opportunity. Drawing attention to the Zionist contempt for international law

The criticism and disapproval quickly turn to revulsion when the situation is examined in more depth .

I agree but while the palestinian side use ineffective attacks that kill civillians on the israeli side we we never see justice.

I can see your point but the Israeli side has better PR and that wipes the slate clean in the eyes of the public.
If these attacks stop and the palestinian side gets good PR men I believe there is a chance that US public opinian can be changed.

Stop using the word zionist. Use Israeli and let the world see the true face of the murderer. All you do by using the word is to add a layer between the truth and what the public see.

Ghandi got rid of the british with nonviolence and he didn't have CNN to shove it down the noses of the public.

Want to see good PR in action ? Just two words Tony and Blair.

 

[TomUS]

Oh, you mean the cynical old Mufti geezer who'd already witnessed the complete betrayal of Arabs by the allies after WW1 ? I agree, an arsehole, but any fool can see that he was an arsehole that fell into the arsehole Hitler's arms as a result of betrayal by other arseholes.

You want to defend the arseholes who betrayed him or do you agree to agree ?

I don't defend the Brits & French who betrayed the Arabs after WWI & Arabs including the Mufti had some reason to oppose those allies. This doesn't explain his lust for Jew killing however, or those that followed him knowing his actions & views & those of his Nazi allies.

 

[moono]

This doesn't explain his lust for Jew killing however, or those that followed him knowing his actions & views & those of his Nazi allies.

I dare say that if Adolf had pointed him towards Martians he'd have had a go at them.


derf;

Stop using the word zionist. Use Israeli and let the world see the true face of the murderer.

Don't be a twat. You don't think that Israelis are responsible for this shit do you ? Israelis are trying to end this expansionist shit. Sharon, Olmert, Leiberman, they're about as close to being Israeli as the Mad Methodist is to being American.

 

[derf]

Don't be a twat. You don't think that Israelis are responsible for this shit do you ? Israelis are trying to end this expansionist shit. Sharon, Olmert, Leiberman, they're about as close to being Israeli as the Mad Methodist is to being American.

So if Israelis are not responsable why are they targeted by suicide bombers?

To kill those not involved in war against you or islam is forbidden in the qur'an unless you know better.

 

[moono]

Well, it's easy for me to differentiate between good Israelis and nationalist Zionist scum, but then there aren't any bits of my children's brains spattered against walls in Gaza, are there.

 

[derf]

Problem you have is that if the cycle of killing and revenge continues there is always someone else to kill.

It must be hell for those on both sides who have lost someone or been injured in the conflict but unless there is change it will just carry one and we will see more of the same.
Whoever comes forward will have a very hard time making it work but it can work and it's the only way that palestinian land will ever be returned without massive loss of life.

If you want peace someone has to stop shooting and it won't be Israel so get used to it.

 

[moono]

If you want peace someone has to stop shooting and it won't be Israel so get used to it.

The threat is noted . However, the Zionist war machine needs drivers. Time is long.

 

[derf]

The threat is noted . However, the Zionist war machine needs drivers. Time is long.

Total narrow minded bullshit as usual.
Zionist this that and the fucking other is a fine way to tell the world fuck all.

Try to wake up and work out that this is no way to win but even worse it will just allow the killing to continue until some one gets the idea that it's not working.

Tell me all you like that it's hard but can it be any harder than what it must be like now ?

I'm not there and can't imagine how bad it must be but it will not change until the killing stops.

 

[moono]

derf;

Total narrow minded bullshit as usual.
Zionist this that and the fucking other is a fine way to tell the world fuck all.

Narrow minded ? Correct me if wrong, but didn't I just enlighten you as to the difference between 'Israeli' and 'Zionist' ?

The narrow mind is yours.

You've just said that the Zionists won't stop shooting. I agree. They are an aggressive and fascist regime that needs to be undermined.
Here are some links to Israeli peace groups.
http://peace.mennolink.org/articles/israelpeacegroups.html
They will deprive the Zionist war machine of drivers. Time is long.

 

[derf]

So I will ask you again. If israelis are not at fault then why are they sometimes targeted by suicide bombers?

It's the Israeli government that needs to change it's mindset but I don't believe they will so it's changing US public opinion that is your target.
You will never do that with a few bombers or crappy rockets so try using CNN.

 

[moono]

Iraq is drawing American attention to Palestine, as is the Baker Report, the Harvard Israel Lobby paper and Carter's book. Many countries don't recognise Israel, including over a billion muslims in Indonesia.

There would be no Palestine without the resistance, although I recognise that the Zionist bombers and rockets are much more numerous and deadly than those of the Palestinians, a point you have probably been programmed to overlook, derf.

 

[derf]

Iraq is drawing American attention to Palestine, as is the Baker Report, the Harvard Israel Lobby paper and Carter's book. Many countries don't recognise Israel, including over a billion muslims in Indonesia.

There would be no Palestine without the resistance, although I recognise that the Zionist bombers and rockets are much more numerous and deadly than those of the Palestinians, a point you have probably been programmed to overlook, derf.

I think I have made it very clear that I am aware that many more palestinians have died than israelis and that isrealis have used far more military power than the palestinian side will ever have to use.

I also agree that palestinine may have been lost without the resistance but it's time for a change.
Can you answer my question from the last post or is it a bit hard for you ?

 

[moono]

derf;

If israelis are not at fault then why are they sometimes targeted by suicide bombers?

Technical error.

Half a cup of palm wine and these operatives can't even walk in a straight line, let alone hit a miltary target.

 

[kyser_soze]

billion muslims in Indonesia

Hmm, given that the global Muslim population is estimated at about 1.3 billion, you're saying that a country with 208 million people is home to a billion Muslims?

Come on - if you can't be arsed to get basic shit like this correct, is it any wonder that the rest of your rhetoric is similarly dismissed?

 

[moono]

1.3 billion worldwide, is it ? There ya go, somebody is paying attention.

So then, at the very minimum a sixth of the world's population doesn't recognise Israel yet Rice thinks that Hamas should.