The Family
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madzone
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I agree about the editing but if the situation is being 'manipulated' that means the family is taking direction, surely.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Why do you assume that they are not?
er, yes!
madzone
Physically unfavourable
Because the premise of the show is just plonking some cameras in someone's house and watching what happens. I think the family are playing up for the cameras and not being entirely natural (though when the dad lost his temper with the daughter I think that was almost as real as it got) but I don't think they're taking direction.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
OK. But I do think they take direction. Neither of us has solid evidence either way, but knowing how the entertainment business works, I'd be surprised otherwise.
madzone
Physically unfavourable
You're going to have to elaborate, I didn't see anything that looked scripted or directed. I just saw a family being aware they were being filmed and not being entirely natural (yet).
madzone
Physically unfavourable
You're going to have to elaborate as well. I don't quite follow what you think is happening. Do you think the 'director' is phoning them up and saying 'Could the daughter phone in sick and then call her buddies and go out'?
Maybe we were just being cynical but I was watching last night with another person and we both thought that the whole thing looked virtually scripted ie there was a director there telling them more or less what to do, maybe vaguely inspired by something that actually happened.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Incidentally, the website also says that they are condensing four months of filming into 8 films, which is probably about 6 hours of actual copy.
Four months into 6 hours.
You could pick and choose whatever the fuck you like from that footage and clip and edit it in any order you want to get any story you want from that.
If you've also had the odd quiet word in an ear -- "Put this on and go and look at some pictures in an album and think of such-and-such sad thought, will you?" then your options for making it into anything the fuck you like become enormous.
Four months into 6 hours.
You could pick and choose whatever the fuck you like from that footage and clip and edit it in any order you want to get any story you want from that.
If you've also had the odd quiet word in an ear -- "Put this on and go and look at some pictures in an album and think of such-and-such sad thought, will you?" then your options for making it into anything the fuck you like become enormous.
You're breaking the fourth wall!
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
What makes you think that the events you saw all happened in the order you saw them? Or even within the same week?
madzone
Physically unfavourable
I don't. I've already said I agree that it's probably heavily and selectively edited. I just don't think the family took direction. It sounded like the family have seen most of the films already and I'm sure they wouldn't be happy about being misrepresented.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
I would imagine that the contract they signed means that the family can't do shit about being misrepresented.
And if they have taken something that happened in one week and inserted it into something else that happened in another week, so that a completely fictional sequence of events apparently takes place, how is that anything other than just made-up fiction? Scripted, in the sense that a story writer is scripting it?
And as for the direction -- I would imagine that they were putting stories together as they went, so that after three months of the four (say), they would say to the mum, "Here, put this on and look at those photos and think of this sad thought" and she just did it to go along with the nice production team. Bam! The team then has some footage they can splice into what is apparently a story for episode one.
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Well, they do what they can with the footage available and given the limits of their imaginations.
Sweaty Betty
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kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
It all depends what you mean by "real". Are they a real family that has been really filmed? Yes. Does that mean that any of the events shown happened remotely as portrayed or even happened at all? No. No, it really doesn't. So what value does this so-called "real" really have?
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