The Fall @ The Cartoon, Croydon - 4 nights!!

Discussion in 'music, bands, clubs & festies' started by D'wards, Jan 15, 2006.

  1. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    Me mate has bought The cartoon, and has tried to revamp it up a bit, and has booked The Fall for 4 nights in March (as well as Chas n Dave and Chumbawamba).


    Which brings me to my next point - where should i start with The Fall? Whats a good album to get into - i love Pavement by the way, if that helps.
  2. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    what does that website have to do with the venue? :confused:
  3. LesNatrels

    LesNatrels fill an empty chair

    You bookes the fall without hearing them?

    you fool yes?

    mamamia :rolleyes:
  4. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    sorry, quite right - should be
  5. Hollis

    Hollis Bloody furious

    Hmm.. "The Sex Pistols Experience" + TEN POLE TUDOR on March 24th sounds more interesting..

  6. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    ten pole tudor on 24th march - iirc, quite a popular act with certain urbanites...

    edit - bugger, hollis got in before me...
  7. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    Great stuff, I'm in! I haven't even set foot in there since DMBT played about 18 months back...hopefully there's less of that hair metal going on there this time round... :p :cool:

    Apart from the best of compilation released on Sanctuary a couple of years back ('50,000 Fall fans Can't Be Wrong') there can't be a single Fall album to start at - the discography is just too labyrinthine. There's a whole brace of albums that I feel should be obtained at first. In chronological order: 'Live At The Witch Trials'; 'Dragnet'; 'Hex Enduction Hour'; 'This Nation's Saving Grace'; 'Extricate'; 'Code: Selfish'; 'Levitate'; 'The Unutterable'; 'Fall Heads Roll'. Then there is a whole second tier, then a third, of albums to plug the gaps, but starting with these can't lead you far wrong. :)

    And nice try folks, but Ten Pole Tudor are so not in the same league as the mighty Fall-ah. Scientific FACT. [​IMG]
  8. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    Fucking hell :eek:

    The Cartoon hehehe I might have to go to this :) Just because its Croydon, its the Cartoon and its been mentioned on urban.

    £15 for the Cartoon! heh
  9. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    I know - its a throughly unglamourous venue - the bands have to walk right thru the centre of the crowd to get on stage, and it only holds 200-250, which is why its gotta be a must "For Fans only" type gig, eh.
  10. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    It'll be rammed!

    Never really been a cartoon goer but I went when it closed down and became 'the cool rooms'. Have been wanting to go to a gig for ages and seeing as Croydon is my old stomping ground I'll be up for this :)
  11. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    Sounds like a great idea for a SXSE event... ;)
  12. Callie

    Callie Pivoting

    hehe Good idea - Ive been quite slack and missed the ones so far :oops:
  13. audiotech

    audiotech wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac

    The "sex pistols experience" singer is brill.
  14. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    Whats SXSE?
  15. phildwyer

    phildwyer Gorau arf arf dysg

    You forgot 'Grotesque,' which is surely in the first tier.
  16. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    It stands for South By South East, a strand of events for those geographically challenged Urbanites in South East london and its environs. Open to all though of course! :)

    See North By North West, its rather basic prototype trial run for same North of the river... ;)
  17. spanglechick

    spanglechick High Empress of Dressing Up

    but which obviously lacks the fab acronym.
  18. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    Yeah, that's a great one of course - it was really between that and 'Dragnet', but I feel that 'Dragnet' represents the William Borroughs aspect intensely, making it more of a departure from its immediate neighbours...
  19. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    Well, quite. ;)
  20. phildwyer

    phildwyer Gorau arf arf dysg

    My favorite is still the debut, 'Live at the Witch Trials.' Tracks like 'Underground Medecine,' 'Industrial Estate, 'Mother/Sister,' 'Music Scene,' 'Frightened' and 'No Xmas' still sound madder than anything they did afterwards, great as that was. 'Hex Induction' is a fairly distant second IMHO.
  21. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    Absolutely - one of the finest debuts ever IMO. And it was recorded and mixed in two days flat. :cool:

    Sadly I wasn't quite aware of The Fall when it came out, but my guess is that it sounded very little like anything else when it was released. 'No Xmas For John Quays' has to be one of the greatest festive tunes ever written.
  22. London_Calling

    London_Calling Pleasant and unpatronising

    The Fall at The Cartoon - that's just silly, and fun.

    I'm too old for this, but someone pick a night . . .
  23. D'wards

    D'wards I'm an excellent driver

    They got an email from Frank Skinner requesting a free ticket, they replied:-

    "Go on then, but Baddiel can fuck of...."
  24. cherrybaby

    cherrybaby Banned Banned

    Good stuff, I have not seen the fall in croydon for 20 years!! :eek:

    The cartoon is a dump though and often has like 3 punters in....
  25. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    Slates 10" is bloody good. It's not an album but plays at 33 1/3. :cool:
  26. boing!

    boing! hairy cheese eater

    'Kin hell the cartoon! :eek: That has to be one of the shittest venues in London. Saying that I've only ever seen it with about 10 people in, might be alright with The Fall playing.
  27. John Quays

    John Quays the reverend relapse

    acid priest has a good list of suggested albums, though what Code Selfish and Levitate are doing up with the best is a matter for some conjecture and surprise to me.

    Hex Enduction Hour is the best, the newie, Fall Heads Roll, you'll be hearing in Croydon, is a winner too.

    edited to say that having spotted subsequent posters' votes for grotesque and dragnet... it's between dragnet and hex... and hex just takes it.
  28. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    I've always been rather out on a limb with those (along with a small group of afficionados who also believe them to be somewhat underrated). What I feel about 'Code: Selfish' is that it strikes a perfect balance and succinctly represents where the Fall were in the years between 'Shiftwork' and 'Middle Class Revolt', while IMO being the equal of any of them. As for 'Levitate', I think it's a gem of an off-kilter oddity - it doesn't sound like anything else they ever did; rather the sound of a band flying by the seat of its pants and chucking every last screwy idea into the pot just for the hell of it before everything imploded. Glorious shit. :cool:

    As a result of this (and the fact that Smith heroically picked himself up again in the intervening 18 months) I felt that, when it was released, 'The Marshall Suite' was a touch clinical and level headed and as such a tad disappointing. However, time has proven this also to be a blinder, I feel. I mean, there really isn't a bad Fall album, is there? Even those I consider to be the weakest - 'Bend Sinister', 'Middle Class Revolt', 'Cerebral Caustic' and 'Are You Are (sic) Missing Winner' are still classics by most others' standards. :)
  29. BadlyDrawnGirl

    BadlyDrawnGirl Piano Tuna

    Hey! Fall fans

    Wicked! I'm cool with any night. :cool:

    Anyone else? :)
  30. Hollis

    Hollis Bloody furious

    They and Ed Tudor Pole are playing the more distinguished 100 club on 6th April.. £8.. 97 tickets left.



    Can't believe Eddy's just the support act.


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