The end of tube train advertising?

[Wolveryeti]

That would only make sense if those removing the ads never travelled on the tube themselves.

It´s making a blanket assumption that people are so weak willed and sensitive that they needed to be protected from pictures that have the power to control their thoughts, and moreover that everyone agrees that paying higher fares is an acceptable tradeoff.

If that´s not patronising, I don´t know what is.

I think your attitude only makes sense if you have a very pessimistic view about the intelligence and suggestibility of the average Londoner.

 

[teuchter]

It´s making a blanket assumption that people are so weak willed and sensitive that they needed to be protected from pictures that have the power to control their thoughts, and moreover that everyone agrees that paying higher fares is an acceptable tradeoff.

If that´s not patronising, I don´t know what is.

I think your attitude only makes sense if you have a very pessimistic view about the intelligence and suggestibility of the average Londoner.

I don't think the suggestion is necessarily that people need to be "protected" from advertising, just that it's an irritation that many would be pleased to see removed. I'd agree that some advertising can be interesting, possibly more so than some "art" but most of what I see in the tube doesn't come under that category.

 

[Wolveryeti]

I fail to see how it could be considered irritating. If you don´t want to look at it don´t. The people who consider it irritating should IMO get over themselves.

 

[winjer]

It´s making a blanket assumption that people are so weak willed and sensitive that they needed to be protected from pictures that have the power to control their thoughts, and moreover that everyone agrees that paying higher fares is an acceptable tradeoff.

No, you are the only one making blanket assumptions, and bizarre ones at that: you suggest only thick people care about the visual environment

All the people removing the ads are deciding is that they don't like the advertising and doing something about it.

 

[teuchter]

I fail to see how it could be considered irritating. If you don´t want to look at it don´t. The people who consider it irritating should IMO get over themselves.

Would you apply the same approach to the built environment, say? Ugly buildings ... if you don't want to look at them just don't...

 

[jæd]

No, you are the only one making blanket assumptions, and bizarre ones at that: you suggest only thick people care about the visual environment

All the people removing the ads are deciding is that they don't like the advertising and doing something about it.

I'm surprised people get so worked up about it... Its just advertising -- if it wasn't there we'd be looking at Public Sponsored art, and I'm yet to see any of that that I like...

 

[kyser_soze]

I'm surprised people get so worked up about it... Its just advertising -- if it wasn't there we'd be looking at Public Sponsored art, and I'm yet to see any of that that I like...

Ah, but you see it's not the end result which matters, it's the intent behind them. Some piece of art that looked like a Blue Peter stamp competition winner would be preferable because it's not selling something...

 

[jæd]

Ah, but you see it's not the end result which matters, it's the intent behind them. Some piece of art that looked like a Blue Peter stamp competition winner would be preferable because it's not selling something...

Ouch that would be worse... Putting up pictures that some 10 year old drew of "Mummy, Daddy + our Hoss" (sic) to replace the ads...

 

[teuchter]

I'm surprised people get so worked up about it... Its just advertising -- if it wasn't there we'd be looking at Public Sponsored art, and I'm yet to see any of that that I like...

You don't have to put anything there instead - it can just be a bit of blank space. AKA a wall without anything on it, you see them around sometimes.

BTW personally I'm not particularly in favour of removing the tube advertising, I'd rather put up with it and benefit from the slightly lower tube fares the ad revenue allows.

 

[chieftain]

Well decent maps would be a start....

The tube map is a wonder of design... philistine!

 

[Wolveryeti]

No, you are the only one making blanket assumptions, and bizarre ones at that: you suggest only thick people care about the visual environment

All the people removing the ads are deciding is that they don't like the advertising and doing something about it.

It´s not an uprising by the people for the people. It´s a decision taken unilaterally by TFL which I happen to think is mistaken.

Of course visual environment impacts on peoples´ lives and happiness, but I am surprised from the responses on this thread at the extent to which visual advertising offends people.

Not all advertising is evil and manipulative. In its purest form it is just imparting information. What message you wish to infer from it is largely down to you.

 

[winjer]

It´s not an uprising by the people for the people. It´s a decision taken unilaterally by TFL which I happen to think is mistaken.

http://www.spacehijackers.org/html/projects/tubeadverts/tubeadverts.html

 

[Wolveryeti]

ouch. pwned

I would not be suprised if TFL initiated something like this tbh though.