The End of the Fridge?

[rennie]

Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...

0800 555111

I have called the police in Brixton countless amounts of time to get them to intervene/stop the dealing n drug taking under my flat. they didn't bother coming on a lot of occasions n when they did it was either too late or ineffective.

smackheads n crackheads on my doorstep is a much more pressing issue that a few tranceheads taking E in a confined space on a saturday night.

but of course, the latter are easier to deal with. and provide great headlines!

 

[corporate whore]

Net effect on Brixton's drug problem. Zero.

Indeed. Three dealers up in court are from Thamesmead, Barking and Harrow.

Drugs tourism, eh? Supply tourists and demand tourists!

 

[Dan U]

Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...

0800 555111

no one likes a grass

 

[bluestreak]

the point of that raid was 1) to tell people that brixton is not tolerant of drugs, and 2) to shut down a possible major dealing and arms selling operation.

now i prefer getting the crackheads off the scene myself, and learnt a lot about that whilst being ranted at by one of brixton's undercover coppers the other night.

 

[rennie]

arms selling???? what next a BAE subsidiary????


and how can you tell the world brixton is not tolerant of drugs when all they need to do is get off the tube to see drugs being sold/taken around them?

 

[pk]

You can't have open dealing in a nightclub that's featured in the tourist guides.

Can't be done.

 

[rennie]

but u can have it on the street? what kind of logic is that? either no dealing EVERYWHERE or then let's deal wherever we like.

and by ur logic pk, it's been listed in the guides for ages and there has been dealing for ages. what changed all of a sudden?

 

[pk]

I'm saying it's easier for the cops to turn a blind eye to underground venues, but not licenced ones that feature in the Lonely Planet guide books.

As for why it hasn't been raided before - it has!

 

[Yossarian]

Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...

0800 555111

"Don't blame the police - how were they supposed to know there was street dealing happening in Brixton? You never told them about it!"

 

[Dan U]

I'm saying it's easier for the cops to turn a blind eye to underground venues, but not licenced ones that feature in the Lonely Planet guide books.

As for why it hasn't been raided before - it has!

i'm sure its presence in lonely planet swung it..

as has been stated on this thread, plenty of venues are getting grief in brixton

 

[pk]

Yes, but perhaps not quite as comprehensively, given the length of time taken to survey the Fridge club and work out who the players were...

 

[Dan U]

Yes, but perhaps not quite as comprehensively, given the length of time taken to survey the Fridge club and work out who the players were...

fair point

over the years i have been going out, many venues have had problems with drugs/dealers (ofen security related) but rarely has it led to extreme measures such as those being proposed for the Fridge ime.

normally a raid followed by a change of door crew suffices.

i'm not prone to conspiracy theories but this just seems another facet of the ongoing war against anything that is considered 'alternative' (ie not generating profits for big companies) whilst ignoring social problems which, imo, are much more damaging to society.

 

[pk]

I can agree with that to a degree, but really I don't think the cops are aligned with any kind of master plan to get people to spend money in taxable venues.

Generating profits for big companies is what people do, a few ravers aren't going to change anything there.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

so...potential loss of another 'alternative' venue - I can easily see some uber-All Bar One or other crap type of commercial nightclub/bar moving in. If it's recently been acquired by some Chinese businessmen, you can bet their priority is to make lots of cash, rather than support the UK trance scene and the best way to make lots of cash is to charge a big entry fee and sell people bottled lager for £3.50...

We woke up to find an intruder in our flat once n called the police (after scaring him away). they never turned up. too busy!

the trick is to say "umm....I think they might be armed..." One of my mates jumped a cab home once at 3am and the driver chased him and found his house...he came back with his mates and was stood outside shouting "i'm gonna shoot you!" Another flatmate woke up, heard this, called the coppers....and within about 30 seconds two riot vans full of armed coppers turned up on their doorstep So the narks do have the ability to respond quickly...

 

[goldman]

why are they targeting venues across Brixton instead of the more visible and arguably more threatening street dealing? so u cannot pop a pill in a club but u can openly buy/sell crack n smack on the high street?

It's absolutely ridiculous to be honest. The police are such cowards! Given the choice of busting a bunch of pilled up gay ravers or addressing the slightly more pressing concern of tooled up crack dealers, they go for the soft option. I'd love to see them put in the same manpower to do something about the Windrush square usual suspects. But that might be a bit scary. Tossers.

 

[jæd]

It's absolutely ridiculous to be honest. The police are such cowards! Given the choice of busting a bunch of pilled up gay ravers or addressing the slightly more pressing concern of tooled up crack dealers, they go for the soft option. I'd love to see them put in the same manpower to do something about the Windrush square usual suspects. But that might be a bit scary. Tossers.

Having seen some of the Mets finest.... I wonder if wandering around in a tight Policemans uniform in club of coked up, pilled gay clubbers is the easiest option for them...

 

[Dan U]

Having seen some of the Mets finest.... I wonder if wandering around in a tight Policemans uniform in club of coked up, pilled gay clubbers is the easiest option for them...

 

[rennie]

So the narks do have the ability to respond quickly...

I'll keep that in mind for next time!

 

[Droppin']

Having once been driven through Brixton in the back of a police car on the scout for the idiots that stole my phone and subjected to questions such as, 'Why one Earth do you want to live here?' etc from some of Lambeth's finest, it just showed how much they really care about the borough that they are supposed to serve and protect. Totally out of touch and more interested in showing the media at large that they are a police force to be reckoned with in the fight against drug crime in Brixton, they have picked possibly one of the softest spots to stake a claim.

I personally think the Fridge is crap these days, although it has been a long time since I've been, but what is spoiling the party for a few ravers really actually going to achieve?

Reduction in drugs in Brixton? No

Scare people into not take drugs when they go out in Brixton? No

Make the police look ever more like a bunch of nonsensical cowards who prey on the soft targets and ignore the bigger problems of people openly trying to force drugs down peoples throats in the street that don't want it as opposed to those taking them through choice in clubs and are not doing anyone any harm other than possibly themselves? Oh yes!

Still, the police are only the conduit really, you can't blame them. It's this stupid fucking govt that is so nonplussed about drugs that they can't even implement a cannabis law properly that we have to hold our hands up to in disbelief!

Although, the police don't help themselves by attracting to their ranks a whole bunch of ex-louts like Terry from that Streets song. Some of the biggest beer-swilling, rugby ra ra boys I have ever met have ended up in the police as they lack the imagination to do anything else and it's these pricks that will arrest you for carrying an eighth, but let you walk on by if you stagger past having sunk twelve pints and you can hardly walk straight, making you a danger to yourself and others around you - coz that's ok, it's just lads and lassies out having fun....

 

[Brixton Hatter]

top post Droppin'

 

[detective-boy]

normally a raid followed by a change of door crew suffices.

Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't a normal situation ... which would perhaps explain a response which is larger than ... er ... normal (unless of course you know of dozens of other operations on this scale recently which have somehow been kept out of the press).

 

[TeeJay]

...Some of the biggest beer-swilling, rugby ra ra boys I have ever met have ended up in the police...

I thought ra ra boys ended up as estate agents or stock brokers?

 

[goldman]

It's usually people with no imagination and an inferiorirty complex that end up in the police. I knew someone who really wantyed to be a prison warder but failed the exam or whatever and ended up joining the force! Nob.

 

[linerider]

Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't a normal situation ... which would perhaps explain a response which is larger than ... er ... normal (unless of course you know of dozens of other operations on this scale recently which have somehow been kept out of the press).

while the fridge might be a little bit different because the doorpeople are run by a bunch of gangsters(no names no packdrill)it still doesn't explain why the police raided a gay night in force,instead of arresting the ten or so crack and smack dealers 30 yards away.it just seems like a publicity stunt to to locals.

 

[jæd]

while the fridge might be a little bit different because the doorpeople are run by a bunch of gangsters(no names no packdrill)it still doesn't explain why the police raided a gay night in force,instead of arresting the ten or so crack and smack dealers 30 yards away.it just seems like a publicity stunt to to locals.

Um... Wasn't a gay night. It was a "polysexual" night...

 

[linerider]

Um... Wasn't a gay night. It was a "polysexual" night...

still a soft target though eh?

 

[linerider]

Um... Wasn't a gay night. It was a "polysexual" night...

does that mean people were having sex with parrots

 

[Dan U]

It's usually people with no imagination and an inferiorirty complex that end up in the police. I knew someone who really wantyed to be a prison warder but failed the exam or whatever and ended up joining the force! Nob.

a good friend of mine joined the police and doesnt fit any of the stereotypes posted about rank and file plod these days. he's still a normal bloke.

i dont deny there are utter idiots and ive met loads myself. but ive also spoken to lots of police who are alright, just doing a job with a sense of humour like anyone else.

 

[detective-boy]

a good friend of mine joined the police and doesnt fit any of the stereotypes posted about rank and file plod these days. he's still a normal bloke.

i dont deny there are utter idiots and ive met loads myself. but ive also spoken to lots of police who are alright, just doing a job with a sense of humour like anyone else.

You're new here, right?

U75 Rule 26: Stereotyping by the police, bad. Sterotyping of the police, good.

 

[RushcroftRoader]

You're new here, right?

U75 Rule 26: Stereotyping by the police, bad. Sterotyping of the police, good.

Can we stereotype community officers instead?