PacificOcean
Unhinged User
memespring said:
Two different drug markets. The sort of person who goes to the Fridge is not likely to be buying crack or smack from street dealers nor robbing to pay for their E's.
The End of the Fridge?
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Two different drug markets. The sort of person who goes to the Fridge is not likely to be buying crack or smack from street dealers nor robbing to pay for their E's.
2 Hardcore
mad old bat
Found these council minutes from last April - it looks as though the Fridge's days are numbered (or the Fridge as we know it, anyway), regardless.
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3DD3A507-023D-4F0E-877E-3CD207954F10/0/031349.pdf
It's all on page 16.
http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/3DD3A507-023D-4F0E-877E-3CD207954F10/0/031349.pdf
It's all on page 16.
dogmatique
merde alors
2 Hardcore said:
Logically, the council should demolish the whole of central Brixton and replace it with council offices and hanging gardens for council officers.
I kind of sympathise with TeeJay's reaction ... to the Fridge specifically
I've only been there twice (Zion Train gig in 1996, and Escape from Samsara on an Xmas Eve about 3 years later).
Didn't like the venue (or in the second case the music, much!) on either occasion.
No doubt it's changed a lot since, but I loathe heavily bouncered venues.
All the same, I recognise what others are saying -- disturbing that there seem to be crackdowns across all licensed venues in Brixton. Due warning taken
I've only been there twice (Zion Train gig in 1996, and Escape from Samsara on an Xmas Eve about 3 years later).
Didn't like the venue (or in the second case the music, much!) on either occasion.
No doubt it's changed a lot since, but I loathe heavily bouncered venues.
All the same, I recognise what others are saying -- disturbing that there seem to be crackdowns across all licensed venues in Brixton. Due warning taken
clandestino
no llevar papel
linerider said:I've been there with the Alabama 3 and back in the days when it was the Ace, the band i was working with(The Redskins)supported the Dead Kennedys
The Redskins and the Dead Kennedys on the same bill in Brixton?!?
*expires*
It was for a TV program called"Whatever You Want",which was one of the first music shows on channel 4.I had a ball as Jon Langford from the mekons was due to play percusion with the Redskins,but turn up to late too sign the contract,so i signed it and got paid for going on stage for one tune(Reds strike the blues)and got £140 for making a twat of myself.ianw said:The Redskins and the Dead Kennedys on the same bill in Brixton?!?
*expires*
If the "bigger picture" is a concerted attack on the "dance" / rave type venues, then we all know where this will get us.
Back where it all started. Back before the powers that be allowed any club to cater for that type of music and culture (and drugs).
Back to completely illegal and unregulated events (which never quite went away anyway, but which will jump in popularity if loads of those clubs get closed down). Is this what they want?
I do wonder why this sudden jumping on places where, yes, some people are doing illegal drugs, but where there is very little trouble, where the customers can afford their drugs, are happy to take them, are in an adult environment, etc.
Especially in an area where you only have to take a 5 or 10 minute walk to come across some very blatant, very problematic drug consumption, right there, in front of every passing man, woman and kid.
Giles..
Back where it all started. Back before the powers that be allowed any club to cater for that type of music and culture (and drugs).
Back to completely illegal and unregulated events (which never quite went away anyway, but which will jump in popularity if loads of those clubs get closed down). Is this what they want?
I do wonder why this sudden jumping on places where, yes, some people are doing illegal drugs, but where there is very little trouble, where the customers can afford their drugs, are happy to take them, are in an adult environment, etc.
Especially in an area where you only have to take a 5 or 10 minute walk to come across some very blatant, very problematic drug consumption, right there, in front of every passing man, woman and kid.
Giles..
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
tarannau said:
hee hee, it's a steamy shagathon in there isn't it
boozybirdie
New Member
Tongue & Groove will be open again on Friday 19th May.
pootle
little moran
TeeJay said:
The fact that you've never even been to the Fridge is pretty telling
the Fridge Bar and the Fridge itself are pretty different.For a start, most of the patrons of the fridge proper are more like to be putting dirty horse drugs up their noses, and blood boiling rave drugs down their throats, with it being predominantly a hard dance venue. A lot of people hold the Fridge in great affection, any one of my generation who went to a Pendragon, or Logic party will attest to it as a venue. It used to have an awesome lighting rig, and one of the nicest, non ouchy sound system (a 50K turbo sound system if I remember correctly)
I remember the last time the Fridge was threatened with closure, and lots of people were sad (in fact it was just a cunning ruse by the Fire Club boys)It's held some very good memories for lots of people. So you personally, TeeJay, don't have to give a shit at all, but lots of people do.
As much as I liked that place when it opened, I'm not exactly champing at the bit to see Tongue and Groove back again.
At first the management seemed inclusive, committed to a diverse crowd - a welcoming and likeable place to be in. By the end it had turned into just another snotty venue with ideas above its station. Arrogant management, complete with a shitty 'no sportswear' policy and an attitude that got people's backs up. Add to that high prices with a lack of attention to detail and service - paying near £4 for a beer, you'd expect more than a couple of cheaply whacked out Word document signs promoting nights and telling you of their door policy.
Wonder which version will open up. If it's the latter, then I fear the worst...
At first the management seemed inclusive, committed to a diverse crowd - a welcoming and likeable place to be in. By the end it had turned into just another snotty venue with ideas above its station. Arrogant management, complete with a shitty 'no sportswear' policy and an attitude that got people's backs up. Add to that high prices with a lack of attention to detail and service - paying near £4 for a beer, you'd expect more than a couple of cheaply whacked out Word document signs promoting nights and telling you of their door policy.
Wonder which version will open up. If it's the latter, then I fear the worst...
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
i was in conversation with one of the guys who was involved in the raid on the fridge and if what he told me was true then i can understand why it happened.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
2 Hardcore said:
They have the money to build new offices?
Are there no empty buildings in Lambeth they can use?
Why are they wanting to lay off loads of Housing Benefit staff?
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
we're not supposed to talk about ongoing court cases are we?
Pootle's right about the Fridge by the way - it and the Fridge Bar are very different entities somehow. The Fridge Bar can cater for a lot of Brixton locals ime - not always my bag, but they did used to have some very popular RnB and hip hop nights with a very different clientele to the main club.
Now, I may not value the trancetastic sounds generally heard in the main club, but it's been a key place for many folk over the years. I'd love to see a more diverse music policy in there, but the Fridge has had a genuine role in attracting people to Brixton over the years. I very much doubt most of those coming have any need to buy drugs off the street - it's generally a closely knit scene with plenty of supply options.
Now, I may not value the trancetastic sounds generally heard in the main club, but it's been a key place for many folk over the years. I'd love to see a more diverse music policy in there, but the Fridge has had a genuine role in attracting people to Brixton over the years. I very much doubt most of those coming have any need to buy drugs off the street - it's generally a closely knit scene with plenty of supply options.
They're not.toggle said:
detective-boy said:Drugs are illegal. The government are continually strengthening the legisaltion re- use in clubs.
What do you expect the police to do - they don't make the fucking laws and get people who are anti-drugs complaining if they do nothing.
Sort your fucking life out and slag off the government. Which bit of "The police cannot change the law" do posters like you have so much fucking difficulty with?
ha ha ha
the police make their own local targets? can't be too difficult for the head ob to suggest his officers might be better deployed clearing the streets of drugs problems before tackling the 'soft' targets..
back to the squats and warehouses people...
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
Dan U said:
And if you remember the original story, they spent MONTHS on gathering intellegence and then all those officers needed for the raid.
Net effect on Brixton's drug problem. Zero.
You've not read about big drug seizures and big time drug dealers being banged up then?moon said:
http://www.met.police.uk/job/job947/live_files/1.htm and mainsteam media reports ad nauseum
PacificOcean said:
i have been following this story with interest. Whilst the Fridge is not my fave venue for many of the reasons outlined elsewhere, just because i rarely choose to attend it, doesnt mean thousands of other people should be denied the opportunity.
particularly as it seems like yet another example of the police chasing easy headlines because they are incapable of dealing with the real issues.
Seeing as you're all so anti- street dealers, and seeing as you all know so much about it, just thought it may be useful to remind you of the Crimestoppers number. You know, so you can make sure that the police know who they should be targeting ...
0800 555111
0800 555111
PacificOcean
Unhinged User
detective-boy said:
Yes, I am sure many on this forum will be ringing as we speak.
What's the point anyway? They never turn up anymore when you dial 999, so why are they going to do anything if you ring a freephone number?
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