The Editors - Crap / not Crap

[Iam]

Evidently.

 

[Sedgley Warrior]

Evidently.

…didn't really need to did I?

 

[Iam]

Well, at least you seem to be enjoying yourself.

 

[Macabre]

And please will people stop harping on about how new, younger bands are derivative and sound like all their predecessors - of course some of that's going to happen, but if we stop liking and listening to fresh talent because it's derivative there'll be no new music. Get over it, stop being so middle aged and go buy Editors on vinyl because the album sounds fantastic.

I'll stop when they do something remotley creative, its one thing being infulenced by a band but its quite another to out-n-out nick their style then have the music rags big you up as being fresh and original.

 

[Sedgley Warrior]

I'll stop when they do something remotley creative, its one thing being infulenced by a band but its quite another to out-n-out nick their style then have the music rags big you up as being fresh and original.

Like who copying who, for instance? (Apart from Oasis of course!)

 

[Macabre]

Editors being the illegitimate child of U2 and Joy Division.

 

[Sedgley Warrior]

Editors being the illegitimate child of U2 and Joy Division.

Well, again I say Editors sound nowt like U2 - I hate U2, always thought they're shite and if Editors did sound like them, or even wrote such weak lyrics, there's no way I'd even tolerate them

And Joy Division - I suppose they're the closest comparison you could make because of their drab sound but Editors don't use drum machines and, judging by the live vid I saw of them in a pub in Altringham, they were shit live - and let's face it, he may be a demi-god, but Curtis couldn't sing…

I guess you're just hearing something I'm not

 

[akirajoel]

you being serious??

Editors are total rip-off merchants.

If you can't hear it then - i dunno - you need to get your ears tested or something...

 

[Dolly Dimple]

They do sound like Joy Division and Interpol, true, but what's wrong with wearing one's influences on one's sleeve if it's good? I happen to like them - Munich and Bullets are both great singles - they're sufficiently different to make the album worth getting, and they were fucking blinding live.

 

[Buds and Spawn]

Well, again I say Editors sound nowt like U2

And you'd be right. Anyone who thinks Editors sound like U2 should get hold of some industrial grade cotton buds and clean their ears out immediately... Maybe some wire wool as well.

Joy Division is a bit of a lazy comparison - everyone's doing it because Joy Division got a bit fashionable in the last few years...

And please will people stop harping on about how new, younger bands are derivative and sound like all their predecessors

It's hard not to do this if you've spent twenty years listening to the same guitar riff (no, not continuously or exclusively) and it pops up in an album by a new band...

I think the Editors wear their influences on their sleeves but still sound fresh enough to listen to.

 

[Sedgley Warrior]

If you can't hear it then - i dunno - you need to get your ears tested or something...

Pardon?

 

[Buds and Spawn]

wearing one's influences on one's sleeve

I hope you didn't just read my mind

 

[Buds and Spawn]

No-one here a fan of Kitchens of Distinction or the Bunnymen?

They have to be the biggest influences on Editors...

 

[Orang Utan]

I like The Killing Moon and The Cutter.
Never heard the Kitchens - was always put off by their write ups in NME and MM.
So we should like Editors cos they like the Bunnymen then?
Have you thought this through?


Coldplay like Kraftwerk
Jamie Cunnam is a big fan of the Neptunes.

 

[bluestreak]

there's no point in getting old if you can't whinge about all the new bands being derivative. this has been happening and will happen forever.

editors, i like the singles, and they were pretty good when i saw them at the scala earlier this year, though they weren't as good as their support band iForward Russia!

i think time will tell with this album. after a few listens i still dig it and the singles are stuck on my internal jukebox but there's no fire in that record that says it's anything other than ok.

 

[Buds and Spawn]

I haven't a clue what Editors like or listen to to be honest.

All I can say is what they sound like. There's always a good chance they haven't set out to sound like the Bunnymen et al., but given there's a few note-for-note rip-offs on their stuff I doubt it...

Not that I'm complaining mind...

 

[Sedgley Warrior]

Coldplay like Kraftwerk

Oh, come on - that's an absurd comparison - obviously Coldplay ripping off Kraftwerk breaks an unwritten code of conduct for musicians - but anything by Coldplay breaks the code of good taste!

 

[Buds and Spawn]

there's no fire in that record that says it's anything other than ok

True. It's no Psychocandy that's for sure... but it's a damn fine toe-tapper... Mind, once you're over thirty what does set you on fire (musically speaking)

 

[Flashman]

True. It's no Psychocandy that's for sure... but it's a damn fine toe-tapper... Mind, once you're over thirty what does set you on fire (musically speaking)

Sparks.

 

[Orang Utan]

Oh, come on - that's an absurd comparison - obviously Coldplay ripping off Kraftwerk breaks an unwritten code of conduct for musicians - but anything by Coldplay breaks the code of good taste!

They list them as influences - they had full permission by Kraftwerk by the way, so I don't think they have breached any unwritten codes (those codes are written anyway - it's called copyright ), apart from the taste code as you say.


OK then - BRMC cite Loop and Can yet are shite.
Duran Duran were big fans of Chic.
Lots of shit bands have great influences. A weak carbon copy iof a great band does not make a great band

 

[A Dashing Blade]

Echo & the Bunneymen without the Echo imo.
Better live than on record tho (which surprised me).

 

[cathal marcs]

Me too. The single was great but the majority of the album is sub-u2, cod-indie guitar twanglings.

My sentiments exactly. Liked the singles hated the album.

 

[pilchardman]

the majority of the album is sub-u2.

In a thread back when the album was released, I said it had been described as the new Joy Division but was sadly the new U2.

 

[Tank Girl]

I love bullets, but not really fussed with much else.