The Dangerous Cartoon Act and Backlash

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by Itziko, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. Itziko

    Itziko Gone AWOL

    Hello all,

    After being a bit of a lurker, this is my first post on Urban75 - hopefully it won't be the last!

    I am a member of Backlash, an umbrella organisation providing academic, legal and campaigning resources defending freedom of sexual expression. We support the rights of adults to participate in all consensual sexual activities and to watch, read and create any fictional interpretation of such in any media.

    I think that Urban 75 members should be aware of this latest legislation that came into being only a few days ago:

    Dangerous Cartoons Act
    From April 6th 2010, it 's illegal to possess “non-photographic visual depictions of child sexual abuse”.

    You can read more about it here, including links to the actual Bill.

    While Backlash are firmly opposed to the production and possession of photographic child pornography, the addition of cartoons to the remit of illegal child pornography in Chapter 2, Coroners and Justice Act 2009 once again promotes the proliferation of victimless thought crime.

    Backlash is a non-partisan organisation and we'd be very grateful if you could pass on these details onto relevant forums. We are also happy to hear your opinions, suggestions, or any queries, preferably by contacting us directly by email.

    Thank you all for your interest and your help.
     
  2. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    If one was going to put together a list of victimless thought crimes that deserve to be on the statue book, gloating over cartoon pictures of child rape would be a pretty good contender for top of the list. It doesn't seem unreasonable to say that anyone deeply into this particular genre should be of interest to the police, and if the only way of legitimately tracking perverts like that is to criminalise them, well and good.

    What a really, really weird single-issue cause to get into. Couldn't you get involved with a stray donkey's home or something?
     
  3. Itziko

    Itziko Gone AWOL

    I think it would be a good idea to read what this law is about, before jumping to rushed replies.

    One again:

    You can read more about it here, including links to the actual Bill. Please read it, and then we can engage in some informed debate.
     
  4. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    humm looks like i'm a law breaker then
     
  5. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    I read the whole thing before posting, you horrid little man.
     
  6. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    I may be missing something, but where is the part where "images of children" is expanded past the current definition in child pornography laws i.e. images of actual children rather than images of imaginary children?
     
  7. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    This raises an interesting point: what counts as a child? Perhaps one could argue in court that the addition of tentacles etc made it a monster rather than a child.
     
  8. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    or the laughable situation in which when hentai games were shipped over seas the dialoug was changed so the agesa were older but the pictures were the same

    an image has no age
     
  9. Itziko

    Itziko Gone AWOL


    No, you didn't - at least not with your grey cells engaged.

    I am not a man, I'm a woman. What makes you think that only a man could post a thread about sex? Are you Harriet Harman by any chance?
     
  10. Itziko

    Itziko Gone AWOL

    Yes, it's a very important point, and one I'll come back to later. Thanks to all who took the time to follow the links and read.
     
  11. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Actually, I think you might be on to something there ...
     
  12. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    Whats this? a board invasion by NAMBLA? :eek:
     
  13. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    actally after reading a bit more it defines child as under 18 and it's rather vague about what counts as pornographic so half of my more steamy love comedies could technically be counted under this
     
  14. gamma globulins

    gamma globulins plinky plonky

    I think he is harriet harman, and you can indeed claim your five pounds.
     
  15. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Nahh Jacqui Smith :)
     
  16. STFC

    STFC Well-Known Member

    Good.

    Why would anyone want to possess such images, apart from the obvious?
     
  17. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    No it wasn't. It was a joke, and rather a good one. Why is it that fetishists and their champions are always so humourless, and so dim?
     
  18. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    You never watched South Park?
     
  19. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    Jacqui Smith? How dare you! If I had my way, she'd be thrown extrajudicially into the Tower with other subversives like Shami Chakrabati and Dominic Grieve.
     
  20. Bernie Gunther

    Bernie Gunther Fundamentalist Druid

    Ruth Kelly?
     
  21. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    well if i stop posting all of a sudden now people will know what has happened to me

    fuck my dakimakura are probably illegal too

    forget jokes about me marrying one now i'llk be off to jail for having them
     
  22. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Well I've found it myself with no great thanks to the blog post - section 65:
     
  23. Maurice Picarda

    Maurice Picarda Actually, might as well flounce.

    Post reported. It's possible to go too far, you know.
     
  24. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    Wasn't someone done for having a pornographic simpsons cartoon? The poor defendant had to argue that no, he didn't really want to make love to Bart Simpson! I can't remember if he went down or not
     
  25. Itziko

    Itziko Gone AWOL

    Hi Fridgemagnet. The law is concerned with "non-photographic images of children." You can download the pdf here: http://www.backlash-uk.org.uk/pdf/consultation-non-photographic-response.pdf (I hope the link works).
     
  26. Superdupastupor

    Superdupastupor fun to funky

    The law is a complete logic fail: what of there is a cartoon which clearly looks like child rape but is merely the rape of a shape shifter that has assumed the form of a child?

    That sort of thing is it
     
  27. Itziko

    Itziko Gone AWOL

    Yes, it was someone in Iowa. I was goign to go out (grrr...), and I meant to post the link tomorrow. It was in the US, because that same law was passed there, before our very own glorious leaders thought it was a good idea to copy.

    I'ill be back, and thanks in the meantime for the debate and for your questions.
     
  28. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    yah, except that actually isn't about the law at all, it's about a consultation

    I found the relevant paragraph in the legislation, but the blog post you linked to is being dishonest claiming that that is "The full pdf concerning the law".
     
  29. Shippou-Sensei

    Shippou-Sensei 4:1:2.5

    this is just compleatly nuts

    i mean i could kinda understand if this was specifically targeting lolicon (even though personally i have no problem with lolicon) but going with a law that covers any image that could be considered under 18 pretty much makes my entire collection of ero stuff illegal
     
  30. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    People have been done for sending pornographic images of themselves. (In the US, this is, but it could theoretically happen here iirc.)
     

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