The Crow and films that embarass you in front of people

[kained&able]

yeah, i was never a fan of the crow films. It was cool, rather then good.

Yes, human traffic! absolutly, i loved it first time as well. 2nd time was a bit meh and half watched it while chatting to a mate, third time i didn't get to the end of it.


dave

 

[DotCommunist]

That's ok me too, we are allowed different opinions. DotCom is just trying to look grown anyway

If you watch the Oliver Stone commentary lots of aspects you may not have noticed are explained, especially the way he plays with colours as emotional signifiers.

still bonnie n clyde tho

 

[DaveCinzano]

I rewatched the HBO adaptation of Fatherland recently, for the first time since I caught it on telly about ten years back.

I remembered it being dark, grim, gripping; it turns out that it is stodgy, dull and unconvincing. It even completely changes the ending of the book - I'm not sure how I hadn't remembered that. I think I may have nodded off before the film finished first time round.

Oh, and March's son's voice appears to be dubbed by a middle-aged woman, in the manner of early 1980s radio programmes. The CGI bits are awful.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

yeah, i was never a fan of the crow films. It was cool, rather then good.

Yes, human traffic! absolutly, i loved it first time as well. 2nd time was a bit meh and half watched it while chatting to a mate, third time i didn't get to the end of it.


dave

I watched Human Traffic on a Sunday morning when coming down and quite liked it. Then saw it again and felt really really embarrassed at some of the 'phrases' they had.

The bit with the drum and bass in the record shop is quality though

 

[Clair De Lune]

If you watch the Oliver Stone commentary lot's of aspects you may not have noticed are explained, especially the way he plays with colours as emotional signifiers.

still bonnie n clyde tho

Do you have to watch the commentary before you can form an opinion on it? or was that just by the by?

 

[DaveCinzano]

If you watch the Oliver Stone commentary lot's of aspects you may not have noticed are explained, especially the way he plays with colours as emotional signifiers.

If you were to 'watch' the director's commentary, I suspect anything you might notice would be due not to Stone's dulcet tones but instead to whatever psychedelics got you seeing sound in the first place.

 

[kained&able]

I watched Human Traffic on a Sunday morning when coming down and quite liked it. Then saw it again and felt really really embarrassed at some of the 'phrases' they had.

oh yeah theres the odd decent bit or bit that seems ridiculously familer, but its a shit shit film.


dave

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I like the bit when they're all coming down as well, the lighters not working, etc.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

But the only character in it who is remotely a convincing raver is actually Danny Dyer's character - a tosser, but he reminds me of all the dodgy kids you get at squat parties.

 

[kained&able]

the conversation between danny dyer and that random about yoda and shiz that gets more and more awkward is about the only bit i like other then the recored shop bit.


dave

 

[killer b]

london kills me was ace first time around. do i need to say how awful it was second?

 

[DaveCinzano]

I recall watching The Rachel Papers with Dexter Fletcher and really liking it. I suspect this would not be the case were I to watch it a second time.

 

[DotCommunist]

Do you have to watch the commentary before you can form an opinion on it? or was that just by the by?

The commentary convinced me that Oliver Stone thought he had shat out a piece of great Art.

Best bit is obv the mock-up of a sitcom. Oh and the prison scene interview still rocks 'Murder? murder's pure'

 

[Clair De Lune]

Cheech and chong

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Cheech and chong

That was a staple of stoned viewing when me, my brother and our best mate were in our mid/late teens and first getting wrecked on his mum's homegrown.

I used to love the bit with the cop getting stoned off the smoke from the weed-van

 

[Clair De Lune]

That was a staple of stoned viewing when me, my brother and our best mate were in our mid/late teens and first getting wrecked on his mum's homegrown.

I used to love the bit with the cop getting stoned off the smoke from the weed-van

Yep, it was great when wrecked at 14...I suspect not so great now though.

 

[Riklet]

fucking human cunting traffic. it spoke to me like no other film when i first saw it at the cinema... then i LEFT SEEING ORBITAL EARLY at glastonbury so i could watch it again in the cinema field. and it was fucking dreadful.

That's one of the most painful things i've read all day, and I actually really rather like that film!

Depends on the person i'm watching with, I guess, but i've regretted Fast Times At Ridgemont High, Waking Life and uhmm... Dazed and Confused I think, oh and vaguely memorably Freddy Got Fingered.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Has anyone had something like I've mentioned with the Conversation, where they've invited people over to watch a really really good film and not considered how inappropriate it is for a get-together?

 

[DaRealSpoon]

Aww, The Crow isn't that bad.

"Morphine is bad for the soul"
-
"Caw! Caw! Bang! Fuck, I'm dead!"
-
"Greed is for amateurs. Disorder, chaos, anarchy. Now that's fun!"

Alright soundtrack too, apart from that wailing pile of toss about the rain.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

Aww, The Crow isn't that bad.



Alright soundtrack too, apart from that wailing pile of toss about the rain.

The baddie (also Guy of Gisburne in Robin Hood) is one of my favourite 'shit actors who is in loads of things but will never get a major part'. Proper crooked face he's got!

 

[DaRealSpoon]

The baddie (also Guy of Gisburne in Robin Hood) is one of my favourite 'shit actors who is in loads of things but will never get a major part'. Proper crooked face he's got!

Yeh, he's great. Just one of those faces and voices destined to be a bad guy

Altho in that pic you do just think.... "bastard"

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

If he was a better actor, and if you were making the character a bit closer to how Tolkien depicted it, he would have made a fucking amazing Strider. He's got the exact lean, dour, spiky look that Strider has in the book.

 

[albionism]

I showed a girlfriend a few episodes of The Young Ones
in the late 90's and it was desperately unfunny. I remember
totally pissing myself to it as a 12 year old.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Has anyone had something like I've mentioned with the Conversation, where they've invited people over to watch a really really good film and not considered how inappropriate it is for a get-together?

For me it was classic jewsploitation flick The Hebrew Hammer and feminist Indiana Jones analogue Cannibal Women In The Avocado Jungle Of Death

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

For me it was classic jewsploitation flick The Hebrew Hammer and feminist Indiana Jones analogue Cannibal Women In The Avocado Jungle Of Death

 

[DexterTCN]

This film, for me, probably represents the biggest quality discrepancy between first and second viewings ever. Maybe The Firm with Tom Cruise would be up there too. What I mean is, the first time I watched it I thought it was fucking amazing and carried that impression with me for a few years until I one day showed it to a girl I was very much into at the time and it turned out to be about as good as Hitler and nowhere near as much fun to be around. It was just absolutely shockingly bad - I can't see how a cult has grown up around that film, surely even goths have quality control?

All the stuff that seemed cool first time round "can't rain all the time" and all of that shit, the relationship with the cop, the bad guys all just seemed ridiculously schlocky and cliched upon second viewing. By the end, the girl was periodically doing ghost noises and going "The Croooooooooooooooow!!! Oooooooooooh! The Croooooooooooooooooooooooooow" whilst I looked on in a mix of horror and shame. Mainly shame.

It seems to have happened to me a few times in my life, where I'll show a film to a ladygirl I like in the full confidence that doing so will kick me up a notch or six in their cool ratings only for the film to turn out to be as edgy and interesting as Cool Runnings or something like that. Although, to be fair, I'd watch Cool Runnings again on pretty much any given day.

Do you have anything similar?

Sounds more like you changed your opinion of the film because the girl didn't like it.

Girls don't like those kind of films...go see a rom-com or a weepie...not a film about death, drugs and anal rape.

The Crow rocks!

 

[Pieface]

No, he's right Dexter, really.

Didn't the star die in any case? Wasn't that why everyone likes it?

 

[Santino]

Didn't the star die in any case? Wasn't that why everyone likes it?

He was the Queen of our Hearts.

 

[Pieface]

Those bitches just keep dying

 

[moonsi til]

I raved to an ex about Wim Wenders 'Until The End of The World'. I had been to see it at the cinema twice. Some 5 years or so later we rent it out on video and it did seem to lack the same 'wow' that had grabbed me. His film to me Nikkita had a much better reception.