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The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover

Saw this at the cinema when it first came out. Cant remember much about it so cant have been impressed by it.
 
I agree, now you mention it - kind of a hybrid of the two. Not worth standing naked in a van full of rotten meat for I wouldn't have thought. Maybe it's a woman thing? :confused:
:D He wasn't very believable as the lover, Helen was far too classy for him. Bad casting there
 
recall people walking out of the cinema when I saw it. The belly button scene seemed to put off a lot of people. Nice to see Ian Dury in there too ...
 
i'd forgotten about this film. i've got it somewhere...i might have to watch again, it's been a while. iirc, i loved it. :)
 
We've just watched this tonight.
Bloody marvelous.
Must be a good 7/8 yrs since I last saw it & Mrs Pie hadn't seen it before.

Not that I'd forgotten as such, but the sets & costumes are just so stunning - the way their clothes change colour according to which room they are in.
Totally mesmerizing film :cool:
 
It is indulgent but it's so well done. I saw it at the cinema and wasn't shocked by the cooking & eating thing, but the way the lover met his end.

Oh shitcocks, now I know the ending. Though I'm guessing it's still worth seeing for the general film experience?

Really want to see this. It was on late at night the last time I stayed with my mum, but considering a) I was tired, and b) she kept going on about how odd it was, I decided to leave it to another time. She however stayed up, and took great delight in telling me how utterly rubbish she thought it was the next day!
 
Great film.
My first boyfriend introduced me to Greenaway via A Zed and Two Noughts. I love the visual opulence of Greenaway's work, and Michael Nyman's music is just great really. Prospero's books is also gorgeous, but I'll admit to finding Draughtsman's Contract rather tedious.
I'd forgotten all about Greenaway until this thread, must get my hands on some of his films again - I reckon it's well over ten years since I last saw any!
 
Dont like it.

I find Greenaways films overbearingly arch, pretentious and oblique - arty film jazz wank.

I also think the politics are dodgey - gentle, decent, educated people who appreciate the finer things in life brought low by aggresive jumped up yobs.

And that kids fucking singing :mad:....
 
Dont like it.

I find Greenaways films overbearingly arch, pretentious and oblique - arty film jazz wank.

I also think the politics are dodgey - gentle, decent, educated people who appreciate the finer things in life brought low by aggresive jumped up yobs.

I can understand where you're coming from, but then cinema is probably a richer place for it.
I'm glad people like Greenaway got to realize there visions - they're beautifully crafted films.
I mean Guy Richie's allowed to make films for god's sake, the balance has to be addressed :D

As for the politics? Meh.
There's probably not a film in existence that doesn't have dodgy politics read into it depending on where you're standing
 
I think theres a clear strand of elitism running all the way through it.
In a Gentle Guardian Readers vs the Brutal Oiks sort of way.

Yes that does come across in the film and there was a reaction like that in the late 1980s in some quarters. An update of the old if they have baths, they'll only put coal in them attitude.
 
I went on a date a million years ago. I really like him. He took me out for dinner and then said ' there's this film I really want to take you to'......

I nearly barfed my curry all over the seat infront of me :D

It's a good film, though.

I've been on the other end of that equation.

On my 23rd birthday, my mates said we could go and see any film that I wanted to see.

So, on my birthday, a day of happiness and joy (supposedly) I decided that we should go and see 'Saving Private Ryan.'

After five pints and a kebab this was NOT a good idea.
 
What was politically dodgy about it? I thought the whoel thing was an attack on Thatcherism.

yes. that's what i was led to understand too. :confused:

I also think the politics are dodgey - gentle, decent, educated people who appreciate the finer things in life brought low by aggresive jumped up yobs.

yea, but that's one of cinema's most enduring narrative genres. either the 'jumped up yobs' end up reappraising their base ways and appreciating the finery of life or they get impaled on pitchforks after having boiling oil thrown in their faces, a la Straw Dogs. :)
 
My one critcism would be that sometimes that little blonde boy's singing went right through me.

Quite, the only thing which would have made this film better would have been some tasteless slaughter of this little blonde bastard in the first fifteen minutes.
 
Dont like it.

I find Greenaways films overbearingly arch, pretentious and oblique - arty film jazz wank.

I also think the politics are dodgey - gentle, decent, educated people who appreciate the finer things in life brought low by aggresive jumped up yobs.

And that kids fucking singing :mad:....

I watched this film for the first time last night and ‘arty film jazz wank’ was pretty much my opinion throughout. I wanted to switch it off in the first 10 minutes but persevered til the end. I didn’t think it was very interesting or clever or any of the things people seemed to like about it. Even the soundtrack grated on me.

But then, it was on the recommendation of someone I really like and I felt like I should at least persevere be able to have an opinion. But I ended up feeling rather sad that for such a highly regarded film I hated all of it. I hated all the fact it looked like a pretentious opera, with an annoying singing kid, and all kids of other little things that just irritated me like how they kept calling the toilet ‘the John’, and various other things too numerous to list.
 
I loved Peter Greenways films when they came out, especially the draughtsmans contract. However I tried to watch drowning by numbers recently and well....aside from Greenways work being an aquired taste it does not seemed to have dated well.
 
I loved Peter Greenways films when they came out, especially the draughtsmans contract. However I tried to watch drowning by numbers recently and well....aside from Greenways work being an aquired taste it does not seemed to have dated well.
Same.
One day fairly recently I was overwhelmed with a desire to watch The Draughtsman's Contract. I lasted about 20 minutes.
 
love the cook but not as much as the pillow book, also enjoyed nightwatching.
Pillowbook is a huge film and needs to be watched on a big screen if only for all the split screen stuff. Amazing.
Ive seen Greenaway twice. Once at the Ritzy, maybe for the cook and at the ICA or NFT when he did a Q&A. Some bloke stood up to ask a question, he went on for so long, I nearly fell asleep before he finished asking it. Pretentious. You?
 
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