The British American Project for the successor generation

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by quiquaquo, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. quiquaquo

    quiquaquo Well-Known Member

  2. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Many of the guests on Newsnight are often members as well.

    My understanding of this (briefly) is that it was set up alongside other similar projects in order to center left politicians / journalists / whatever onside with the US, providing them with placements in US foundations and building relationships with US politicians / journalists / whatever.

    There is (or was) a similar project in the arts which promoted certain types of art (US modern stuff) over things like Soviet Realism

    I have some stuff on this I will go and dig it out.
     
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  3. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    http://johnpilger.com/articles/how-the-anglo-american-elite-shares-its-values-
     
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  4. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    http://ij-poli-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2011/10/british-american-project-needs.html
     
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  5. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    http://powerbase.info/index.php/British_American_Project
     
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  6. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    The numerous post-war projects weren't really aimed at soviet realism - the war itself had killed that monstrosity. It was more about fostering the common sense of the idea of individual freedom of expression and the singular artist free of any wider collective commitments or the concept of progress as totalitarian etc- this was the sugar coating that allowed two generations of anglophone leftists to write for encounter and to laud abstract expressionism and so on. See Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War by Frances Stonor Saunders for an in-depth look at this.
     
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  7. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Not about the BAP in particular but about the wider covert cultural cold war. A review of 'Who Paid the Piper? The CIA and the Cultural Cold War by Frances Stonor Saunders' by Edward Said in the LRB

    http://thurnundtaxis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/hey-mister-you-want-dirty-book.html
     
  8. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    see above ^^
     
  9. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Ta
     
  10. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    In addition to Who Paid The Piper, the following are also good:

    The CIA, the British Left and the Cold War: Calling the Tune? (Studies in Intelligence) by Hugh Wilford

    The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America Paperback by Hugh Wilford

     
  11. Dillinger4

    Dillinger4 Es gibt Zeit

    Err I have some more. But I can't remember what right now. Plenty to go on here though.
     
  12. DaveCinzano

    DaveCinzano WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!

    The BAP was a key topic of Lobster through the 90s - see also Robin Ramsay's work on New Labour.
     
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  13. likesfish

    likesfish an angry pretend soldier shooting at seagulls

    The Cold War.
    Russia wasn't insane enough to attack America but America was crazy enough to believe they would.
     
  14. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Yep - be carefeul though as the mandleson membership opened the door to it's the jews i knew it types to present a series of unrelated facts as research. (edit: in relation to lobster and other para-political research).
     
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  15. hot air baboon

    hot air baboon Well-Known Member

    ...think that's harsh on Ramsey / Lobster ...
     
  16. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I wasn't suggesting they were part of the anti-semitic community, quite the contrary in fact - that their solid evidenced research was misused or functioned as a jump off point for the latter clowns.
     
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  17. hot air baboon

    hot air baboon Well-Known Member

    sorry...I misread...
     

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