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ScallyWag II
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There's a close high scoring match on atm. Sutherland of Ireland just beating an Algerian (Kasel?). Scoring is weird though, Sutherland just landed a punch, the Algerian had to take a count and he didn't get a point for it 
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Didn't make a difference, he cruised it in the final round.
Back to the rowing now
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Just reading on the BBC site that the US have had their worst games ever - just one of their boxers in a semi final and they were one of only two countries to qualify fighters in every division. The other one was Russia and they only have three of their eleven fighters left.
Any informed opinion on the chances of the remaining three GB boxers, strange judging notwithstanding?
Any informed opinion on the chances of the remaining three GB boxers, strange judging notwithstanding?
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
There are still three Irish boxers left and three British ones.
Egan will be the favourite in his quarter final, while the other two Irish boxers (Sutherland and Barnes) will be slight underdogs. None of them are guaranteed wins, but neither are any of them out of their league.
Things are slightly different for the British boxers. DeGale is up against Artayev. Artayev is considerably better and it would be a major upset for him to lose. Jeffries hasn't really impressed me, but is opponent, Szello doesn't have a stellar record either. I was of the view that David Price wasn't that good, but he then proceeded to knock out one of the Gold Medal favourites, so I'll just keep my mouth shut. His opponent is pretty good, but not spectacular. If Price fights like he apparently did in his first bout (I say apparently because I didn't actually see it) then he'll be in with a chance against anyone in what is, by far, the weakest division in the competition.
In short, of the six DeGale is the only one who is up against someone who is operating on a different level. All the others have realistic aspirations to get into the medals.
Regardless of how they do in this competition it will be interesting to see how some of them do in the pro game. Sutherland, the Irish middleweight in particular looks like he's much better equipped for the professional version of the sport, with an extremely aggressive style and knockout power in both hands. Try to catch his fight against Blanco in the quarterfinals - both of them won real barnstormers in the last round, both have power and both like to come forward. Some of Sutherland's punches before he stopped his last opponent looked absolutely sickening.
Egan will be the favourite in his quarter final, while the other two Irish boxers (Sutherland and Barnes) will be slight underdogs. None of them are guaranteed wins, but neither are any of them out of their league.
Things are slightly different for the British boxers. DeGale is up against Artayev. Artayev is considerably better and it would be a major upset for him to lose. Jeffries hasn't really impressed me, but is opponent, Szello doesn't have a stellar record either. I was of the view that David Price wasn't that good, but he then proceeded to knock out one of the Gold Medal favourites, so I'll just keep my mouth shut. His opponent is pretty good, but not spectacular. If Price fights like he apparently did in his first bout (I say apparently because I didn't actually see it) then he'll be in with a chance against anyone in what is, by far, the weakest division in the competition.
In short, of the six DeGale is the only one who is up against someone who is operating on a different level. All the others have realistic aspirations to get into the medals.
Regardless of how they do in this competition it will be interesting to see how some of them do in the pro game. Sutherland, the Irish middleweight in particular looks like he's much better equipped for the professional version of the sport, with an extremely aggressive style and knockout power in both hands. Try to catch his fight against Blanco in the quarterfinals - both of them won real barnstormers in the last round, both have power and both like to come forward. Some of Sutherland's punches before he stopped his last opponent looked absolutely sickening.
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What happened to that blokes legs?
jiggajagga
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He's up against the Italian next isn't he?
I reckon he's got a good chance. According to the most knowledgeable about boxing person I know - Price has got a great chance of beating the Italian.
Apparently the Italian has fought another Brit (not as good as Price) recently and only won by 1 point!
I reckon he's got a good chance. According to the most knowledgeable about boxing person I know - Price has got a great chance of beating the Italian.
Apparently the Italian has fought another Brit (not as good as Price) recently and only won by 1 point!
ScallyWag II
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Tony Jeffries fights for a medal against Hungarys' Imre Szello around 2pm today. What are his chances?
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light heavy isn't he?
Think so.
iirc he looked good and think he's in the top 10 in his weight class according to Boxing News.
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According to the beeb he beat the Hungarian by a point last time they et in the Europeans this year. Could be a close one!
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Should be. Both are solid but not particularly brilliant and they are at about the same level. The winner could be in a semifinal against Ireland's Kenny Egan, by the way.
Speaking of Irish boxers, Paddy Barnes has just won his quarter final in some style in the Light Flyweight division, one of the toughest divisions at the games. So Ireland have at least one boxing medal. Unfortunately he is up against the world champion from China in the semifinal.
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The scoring should be interesting in that one!
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On the bbc site that Tony Jeffries will be fighting Kenny Egan.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Yes, Jeffries made the Hungarian look very ordinary, which was impressive as on paper there shouldn't have been much between them. It shows that he has a good temperament and is capable of rising to the occasion.
That said, he'll have to rise an awful lot further to beat Kenny Egan. Egan is the best technical boxer in the division, with an excellent jab and very good defence. He has been in great form so far in the Olympics. In fact his three opponents so far have only managed four points between them! Egan has also beaten Jeffries a couple of times.
If Jeffries is going to win, he'll have to get inside the jab and rough him up on the inside. That's easier said than done, as the last three guys Egan has met in the competition could tell you.
That said, he'll have to rise an awful lot further to beat Kenny Egan. Egan is the best technical boxer in the division, with an excellent jab and very good defence. He has been in great form so far in the Olympics. In fact his three opponents so far have only managed four points between them! Egan has also beaten Jeffries a couple of times.
If Jeffries is going to win, he'll have to get inside the jab and rough him up on the inside. That's easier said than done, as the last three guys Egan has met in the competition could tell you.
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
Yeah. This particular Chinese boxer already got a bit of a gift in his second round right against the Frenchman. He won on countback but I thought the French fighter won and so did quite a few other people. That said, the Chinese guy is very good and was brilliant in the world championships, so with that and the dubious judging in some of the fights featuring Chinese boxers, Barnes will be up against it.
ScallyWag II
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One of the other main contenders, Kurbanov, has been disqualified for biting his opponent
Nigel Irritable
Five, Ten, Fifteen Years
One of the other main contenders, Kurbanov, has been disqualified for biting his opponent
What the hell? What happened?
Looks like Tajikistan's Dzhakhon Kurbanov has been disqualified for [doing a Mike Tyson] i.e biting the Kazakh Yerkebulan Shynaliyev in their light-heavyweight quarter-final bout in the boxing!
Kurbanov, regarded as one of the favourites for the title after ousting world champion Abbos Atoev of Uzbekistan in his first bout, was trailing 12-6 when he sunk his teeth into his opponent with 17 seconds left in the third round.
And it's not the first time that Kurbanov was disqualified. He was dq'ed in the World Championships in Chicago last year against the same fighter!!
Mens Boxing quarter finals (the remaining fights):-
Men's Fly (51kg)
McWilliams Arroyo Acevedo vs Andris Laffita Hernandez
Men's Fly (51kg)
Georgy Balakshin vs Kumar Jitender
Men's Fly (51kg)
Vincenzo Picardi vs Walid Cherif
Men's Fly (51kg)
Somjit Jongjohor vs Yunusov Anvar
Men's Middle (75kg)
Alfonso Blanco Parra vs Darren John Sutherland (Ireland)
Men's Middle (75kg)
Bakhtiyar Artayev vs James De Gale (GB)
Men's Middle (75kg)
Elshod Rasulov vs Emilio Correa Bayeaux
Men's Middle (75kg)
Carlos Gongora vs Vijender Kumar
Well done to Paddy Barnes for his quarter final win and for Kenny Egan as well. Looking foward to seeing the GB & Irish (Eire) boxers get on (if i get a chance to watch it)
