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the best thing about when we win the world cup.....

Johnny Canuck2 said:
I really have no clue: is it cricket?

The Groke said:
...Ok - I will take the bait: Rugby Union.

:)


Fair enough you don't know, like, I was obviously being way too paranoid in my old age!

It is a sport you guys have always shown a vague promise at but never really "followed through" as it were.

After all, it should be dear to your hearts as - much like your national game (and unlike soccer) - it involves "real men" (;) ), running (Ok sliding is more your ouvre I guess) around knocking seven shades of shit out of each other for two halves......
 
The Groke said:
:)


Fair enough you don't know like, I was obvious being way to paranoid in my old age!

It is a sport you guys have always shown a vague promise at but never really "followed through" as it were.

After all, it should be dear to your hearts as - much like your national game (and unlike soccer) - it involves "real men" (;) ), running (Ok sliding is more your ouvre I guess) around knocking seven shades of shit out of each other for two halves......

The paranoia isn't age, it's the drugs.

There's lots of rugby here; but I don't think we're a world power or anything. It's the only game where I received any semi serious injury: a broken hand.
 
Savage Henry said:
Well if your asking Englands last result against a football superpower was a victory over Argentina , so thats that argument shafted isn't it :p

Could be I suppose!

We shall see won't we.

I don't reckon we have the talent, or the balls for it frankly, as we have shown year after year after year since our last major international tournament win.

Mind you, like I said I don't like the sport anyway, so If I am proven wrong, I won't lose any sleep over it and if I am right, it will provide me with much amusement...

:)
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
The paranoia isn't age, it's the drugs.

There's lots of rugby here; but I don't think we're a world power or anything. It's the only game where I received any semi serious injury: a broken hand.

Or possibly too many old drugs.....

:(

Damn you quoted my post pre-spelling/grammar tidy-up!

:mad:

Ah well.
 
The Groke said:
I don't reckon we have the talent, or the balls for it frankly, as we have shown year after year after year since our last major international tournament win.


We're not the best team in the competition but England aren't far off , we have the players to win it but they don't seem to play as well as they could together ( I blame Sven for that ) so it will be tough to actually beat the top teams in the world but if England play well then there is no reason why the World Cup can't be bought home ! I think you'll find this is actually the attitude of the majority of sensible England supporters , the media seem to ignore it though and just say we can win , as do the players but I suppose they want to think positivly .

And even if fans are saying England are going to win the world cup , why do you assume it's arrogance ? Why can it not just be misguided optimism ?
 
The Groke said:
Me too, and I am English!

:p

It is funny that people (The English) always say exactly the same thing about England everytime there is a major Nob-Ball festival

"Oh - you know, this time I really do believe we can win it cos of <flimsy premise no.1>, <dubious evidence No.8> and <random fact no.29> "....

the reason i started this thread was cos there has been about a thread a day saying we are not going to win the world cup for the last week or two
 
Savage Henry said:
And even if fans are saying England are going to win the world cup , why do you assume it's arrogance ? Why can it not just be misguided optimism ?

*quickly scans through his last posts......*

I don't think I ever called it "arrogance", just expressed amusement at the cyclic and repetitive nature of comments regarding England's chances before any given tournament.

I am just a soccer curmudgeon mate (and a confirmed egg-chaser!) so please don't waste too much time on my snipes and comments if you are genuinely excited over the forthcoming event.

:)
 
Ninjaboy said:
the reason i started this thread was cos there has been about a thread a day saying we are not going to win the world cup for the last week or two


Ahhh love it or hate it, I suppose everyone ends up talking about it.......

Like I said previously:

England Don't Win = my vague amusement and smugness

England Win = my basking in reflected glory with nary a trace of guilt over my hypocrisy and previous anti-soccer statements.

in any case, I won't be losing any sleep/money/face over the thing whilst it is on.

I win either way

*smug*

:cool:
 
The Groke said:
*quickly scans through his last posts......*

I don't think I ever called it "arrogance", just expressed amusement at the cyclic and repetitive nature of comments regarding England's chances before any given tournament.

:)


I'm so used to it being described as arrogance ( normally by scots or the welsh ) I just assumed you'd done that as well . It is amusing , we do always claim we can win and then fuck up , but the fuck ups are things that can be avoided due to shit tactics or petulant players , so with the team playing well there is no reason why we can't win , history has shown us though that it's very unlikely to go a tournamnet without messing up at least 1 game :rolleyes:
 
Ninjaboy said:
the best thing about when we win the world cup.....

You on drugs son..??:confused:

I would love us to win the world cup this time. I was born only a couple of months after we won it in '66..

But let's be honest with ourselves here..

Semi-finals would be a great achievement, quarter finals at best..

Sorry to piss on your parade, but your a big lad & I am sure you will get over it..:)
 
Ninjaboy said:
is that after the euphoria dies down, we ahve another month of ripping the piss out of the scottich and welch cunts who were so chuffed that rooney broke his foot or we lost to denmark....

and we can tell all the english people who find football irritating and hate people waving flags "oh i wouldn't come out and party tonight, there'll be lots of st georges crosses, and i know how oyu have a thing about the misuse of the symbol by racist thugs in the 1970s, i'd just stay home and feel superior

Dear o Dear don't you ever learn? :D

I seriously think Poalnd ans Sweden will qualify. :p

See Swansea last week - spouting like you are now, never a good idea before you actually achieve something. :)
 
See, this is why we want you to get humped, not because we hate your country or your people, not that we're jealous or bigoted.

It's because you're so bloody arrogant about it all, there's optimism (i really think we can win the world cup) then there's this, which is way beyond it. After having this force fed to you is it any wonder we don't get behind you lot?
 
Ninjaboy said:
is that after the euphoria dies down, we ahve another month of ripping the piss out of the scottich and welch cunts who were so chuffed that rooney broke his foot or we lost to denmark....
That's nice.
 
Ich bin ein Mod said:
See, this is why we want you to get humped, not because we hate your country or your people, not that we're jealous or bigoted.

It's because you're so bloody arrogant about it all, there's optimism (i really think we can win the world cup) then there's this, which is way beyond it. After having this force fed to you is it any wonder we don't get behind you lot?

This isn't arrogance. It's simple genuine belief that we can do it this time.

And actually, it's the hatred of the Scots et al towards us that makes me so desperate for us to win it.
 
RenegadeDog said:
This isn't arrogance. It's simple genuine belief that we can do it this time.

And actually, it's the hatred of the Scots et al towards us that makes me so desperate for us to win it.

But the presence of the word "when" in the thread title means that it is being stated as fact that you will win the world cup. Wheras had it been "the best thing if we win the world cup" then it'd be somewhat easier for me to believe that it's optimism.

If there was a tad more restraint shown by the English media and sections of your support, we'd likely not wish the team such ill.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
You'll also be able to update all those 'England 66' shirts. They're forty years out of date.

Has it really been that long since England won? I think even the Chicago Cubs have won the World Series more often than that, and they're the losingest team around...

Surely at some point, the wise thing to do is give up?

Thats a shite troll Johnny 1/10 :p

Baseball. What a dumb fucking game that it. Why the fuck is it called the World series when the rest of the world has got fuck all to do with it. :p
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Has it really been that long since England won? I think even the Chicago Cubs have won the World Series more often than that, and they're the losingest team around...

No they haven't.

They haven't even been to the Series since '45 (lost to Detroit Tigers).

Their last win was something like 1908.

:( :(
 
Ich bin ein Mod said:
But the presence of the word "when" in the thread title means that it is being stated as fact that you will win the world cup. Wheras had it been "the best thing if we win the world cup" then it'd be somewhat easier for me to believe that it's optimism.

If there was a tad more restraint shown by the English media and sections of your support, we'd likely not wish the team such ill.


So because a minority of England fans are arrogant fuckwits and the Media are totally unrepresentative of English fans you wish the team such ill :confused:

To be honest with logic like that you can shove your support up your arse :p ;)
 
Ninjaboy said:
is that after the euphoria dies down, we ahve another month of ripping the piss out of the scottich and welch cunts who were so chuffed that rooney broke his foot or we lost to denmark....

and we can tell all the english people who find football irritating and hate people waving flags "oh i wouldn't come out and party tonight, there'll be lots of st georges crosses, and i know how oyu have a thing about the misuse of the symbol by racist thugs in the 1970s, i'd just stay home and feel superior
OR..
you can always sheepishly forget everything you said here when you get fucked out......
cmon paraguay
cmon sweden
cmon trinidad
 
jammer said:
OR..
you can always sheepishly forget everything you said here when you get fucked out......
cmon paraguay
cmon sweden
cmon trinidad

i'm just pissed off with the amount of people who have already decided england won't get past the 2nd round before the tournament has kicked off

anyway i don't give a fuck if you mardy cunts gloat if we don't win. it's a lot more fun following a team than supporting who they play against which a lot of welsh and scottish do cos their team doesn't even stand a chance of getting past the qualifiers

i can't wait till one of them teams actually does manage to fluke their way into a tournament so we can laugh at you getting taken apart by proper football teams
 
RubberBuccaneer said:
I seriously think Poalnd ans Sweden will qualify. :p

I think Poland and Sweden will qualify too.

Luckily Poland aren't in our group, so there's room for England too. (:p back atcha).
 
dirtysanta said:
Why the fuck is it called the World series when the rest of the world has got fuck all to do with it. :p

Cos it was named after the Newspaper that sponsored it I believe. Don't think its named like that to insinuate a *world* sport. I'll try find a link, cos I could be wrong...
 
The New York World, in fact.

You may have problems with definite corroboration, because I'm not sure even MLB actually knows. That's pretty much the most popular explanation, though although there are a couple of others I've heard which are similar.

NONE of them refers to it being a World Championship, though.

There was a Baseball WC recently. It wasn't won by the USA.
 
The last time yous won the world cup , 1966 I believe, we went to your national stadium the following year and humped you off the park. the last time we played yous at wembley we beat yous . By the time the new wembley actually gets finished we will be ready to hump yous again.
Enjoy your trip to Germany, Scotland supporters always enjoyed our trips abroad,Win Lose or Draw. We are treated with frendship and respect everywhere we go. Hope you manage to control your thuggish element, but i fear the worst.
Peace,
sees yous at Wembley whenever yous are ready!
 
Celticbhoy said:
The last time yous won the world cup , 1966 I believe, we went to your national stadium the following year and humped you off the park. the last time we played yous at wembley we beat yous . By the time the new wembley actually gets finished we will be ready to hump yous again.
Enjoy your trip to Germany, Scotland supporters always enjoyed our trips abroad,Win Lose or Draw. We are treated with frendship and respect everywhere we go. Hope you manage to control your thuggish element, but i fear the worst.
Peace,
sees yous at Wembley whenever yous are ready!

lol

Being noted for your fans good behaviour is the last bastion of a country that has fuck all football team. Scotland have always been good at winning matches that don't matter. They're even flakier than the English.
 
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