The Baader Meinhof Complex

[grogwilton]

Incidentally my sister had a run in with a member of the BM, Astrid Proll, this year when she was working at a conference run by the Goethe Institute on Germany and 1968. My sister was on the door and Proll wanted in without any tickets, saying she was on the press. My sister said no as noone was being allowed in as the hall wasnt ready yet, and Proll got shirty, and heckled the meeting when it did happen.

When told about the above my 84 year old german gran said: "Tut, after all these years, those '68ers still don't know how to behave themselves!"

 

[boskysquelch]

I was arrested in Bilboa airport, under suspicion of being a transgendered Brigitte Mohnhaupt; with a colleague who looked like Christian Clar.

I thought it was a laugh...but the Kays-catalogue client we were with didn't.

 

[audiotech]

Interview with Bill Ayers, a member of the 1960s US militant antiwar group the Weather Underground.


Both Ayers and his partner, Bernardine Dohrn, discuss the McCain campaign attacks, President-elect Obama, the Weather Underground, the legacy of 1960s social justice movements.

 

[Maggot]

Ahhhh, gutted. Who reviewed it?

Jason Solomons

 

[butchersapron]

Interview with Bill Ayers, a member of the 1960s US militant antiwar group the Weather Underground.


Both Ayers and his partner, Bernardine Dohrn, discuss the McCain campaign attacks, President-elect Obama, the Weather Underground, the legacy of 1960s social justice movements.

Pair of pricks.

 

[audiotech]

Contemporary history does appear to have it's fair share of upper middle-class radicals, whose rhetoric and actions appear to have achieved very little in the scheme of things, despite some attempting to claim the opposite.

 

[butchersapron]

You leave the prof alone.

 

[audiotech]

'All in all it's just another prick in the wall...'

 

[HackneyE9]

Incidentally my sister had a run in with a member of the BM, Astrid Proll, this year when she was working at a conference run by the Goethe Institute on Germany and 1968. My sister was on the door and Proll wanted in without any tickets, saying she was on the press. My sister said no as noone was being allowed in as the hall wasnt ready yet, and Proll got shirty, and heckled the meeting when it did happen.

When told about the above my 84 year old german gran said: "Tut, after all these years, those '68ers still don't know how to behave themselves!"

Snap. I got heckled by Astrid Poll at a Goethe film screening of a 68 documentary earlier this year (I didn't know who the fuck she was, bar being middle-aged, opiniated and in love with her own voice.)

For what it's worth, she completely didn't listen/misinterpreted what I said, namely that if you read Sir Cecil King's diaries - as I have done - he attended the Axel Springer party in 68 to mark the opening of the new Bild HQ in West Berlin - which is a scene in this docu that an early BMG group infiltrate and disrupt - and that Springer told him (King) he was so worried about the ongoing 68 stuff that he kept a private yacht permanently moored in Hamburg with a driver (captain?) to flee to Britain if the shit hit the fan.

Anyway, my point was that, the direct action in the film had perhaps been more effective than it appeared, if it had rattled Springer that much.

And Astrid Poll heckled me to say, "Ach ja, your stupid James Bond conspiracy theories...."

So, yeah - stupid bitch, IMO.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7KIUaVSRA

Anyone thinking of seeing it? Know what to make of it? Gotta say, the trailer is pretty fuckin' sexy...

But jeez - "Ho, Ho, Ho Chi Mihn!"

Them and the Red Brigades... pretty glad all that bollocks is over.

red brigades quite a different sort of thing chap.

PS woah, this is on page two? i shouldn't have taken an hours break between writing and posting

 

[Taxamo Welf]

on to the film...

The poster said:

Revolutionaries? Or criminals?


doineedtoseethistoknowitisaloadofshitnoidon't

 

[Taxamo Welf]

Interview with Bill Ayers, a member of the 1960s US militant antiwar group the Weather Underground.


Both Ayers and his partner, Bernardine Dohrn, discuss the McCain campaign attacks, President-elect Obama, the Weather Underground, the legacy of 1960s social justice movements.

i like the one who's a new york barman now. He's cool.

The one with the beard is ok as well.

 

[butchersapron]

All crims are revolutionaries
All crime revolutionary

 

[Taxamo Welf]

All crims are revolutionaries

That was the basis for me dismissing the film yes.

All crime revolutionary

w00t w00t

 

[butchersapron]

You've shut the door on future wind ups with those comments. Mind you, people like this don't post here anymore:
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82054

 

[Taxamo Welf]

You've shut the door on future wind ups with those comments. Mind you, people like this don't post here anymore:
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82054

i think that was a wind up by a bunch of LSE students anyway mate. Like that 'new angry brigade' communique on indy.

Thats the kind of thing they find very funny.


i do a bit too actually

 

[butchersapron]

It wasn't. I wish it was, but it wasn't.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

well moz still posts here, and Dr T.

 

[butchersapron]

Eh?

 

[Taxamo Welf]

compensation for the lack of Urban Guerillas.

 

[nino_savatte]

All crims are revolutionaries

Er, Dennis Nielson? Was he a revolutionary? How about Dr Crippen?

 

[dynamicbaddog]

Er, Dennis Nielson? Was he a revolutionary?

well he was in the SWP for a bit

anyways - the film, I went to see it last night. I did'nt know much about the R.A.F before so it was quite a good history lesson, but at 2 and a half hours long it dragged a bit towards the end. The first hour is very fastpaced tho, (lots of soundbites, shagging and explosions)

 

[Maggot]

Contemporary history does appear to have it's fair share of upper middle-class radicals, whose rhetoric and actions appear to have achieved very little in the scheme of things, despite some attempting to claim the opposite.

Just like the working class radicals then.

 

[nino_savatte]

well he was in the SWP for a bit

anyways - the film, I went to see it last night. I did'nt know much about the R.A.F before so it was quite a good history lesson, but at 2 and a half hours long it dragged a bit towards the end. The first hour is very fastpaced tho, (lots of soundbites, shagging and explosions)

The SWP you say? Hardly revolutionary.

I may go and see this.

 

[audiotech]

Just like the working class radicals then.

No.

 

[butchersapron]

Er, Dennis Nielson? Was he a revolutionary? How about Dr Crippen?

Never heard of them.

 

[Maggot]

No.

So give me some examples then.

 

[audiotech]

So give me some examples then.

Global, or national?

 

[nino_savatte]

Never heard of them.

They're crims (Crippen is dead, of course).

Originally Posted by butchersapron
All crims are revolutionaries

How about Christie or Michael Stone?

 

[butchersapron]

The performance artist?