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The Ashes Tour 06/07

hiccup said:
Congratulations, you have achieved cricket enlightenment/nirvana.
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The ball has ripped out his off peg

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snowypat said:
Taking off my Aussie hat and being a cricket tragic i would question why England couldn't do it.The last Ashes side to play here was not a patch on the one you have now.Adding to that you have a side that holds The Ashes and our blokes have to get them back so where is the pressure??On us for sure.Even if McGrath breaks down,Mitchell or Stewy Clarke or Shaun Tate are all quick but your bowlers made the difference last time.The pitches here are all like main roads,flat as a squashed cow turd,no shit(pardon the pun).
For mine i would say we will take maybe 4 quicks and Warnie and try to unsettle your top order straight up.I reckon Cook is up to it and will make his name here this season.Trescothick leaving takes the pressure off Cook and Strauss,to play shots,get confident knowing if they get done they will get another game without somebody waiting in the wings to take their place.It all adds to the pressure on batsmen.
I think that it will be a good series and would love to see a 3-2 result(our way of course) but it will not be a doddle.England have a good enough side to retain The Ashes but i am sure Aussie spirit will shine and we will get them back.
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Fair play. It's going to be a fascinating series, which I think we will scrape, but it is genuinely uncertain and finely balanced, which makes it all the more exciting.
 
This recent England team is the only one in 15 - 20 years to have players who on there day make you stop and cant take your eyes of the match. Flintoff and Harmison (and when fit Jones) bowling and Flintoff and Pieterson batting.

That reverse sweep of Mutia by Peiterson for six was unreal.

At there best they can cain the Ausies but and I mean BUT, there on-off kind of players and the back up can be a bit weak.

The Australians are more consistant. They should win it, but this England team have balls and talent. If Harmison has a good innings on some of those pitches, he'll destroy there batting line up (random point: funny how few tests the Aussies scheduled at the WACA against the Proteas when Alan Donald was at his best) but the back up bowling is not great. I doubt Monty, Mahmood and Anderson to replicate Giles and Jones ability to sustain pressure....... (gonna look stupid if Monty does a star turn mind)

This test series has the potential to absolutely crackle or totaly fizzle.
 
Question for snowypat, or any other aussie. How will your press react should england win the first test? I ask in terms of the psychological impact bearing in mind that ponting is known as the captain who lost the ashes to the poms. Being the captain that loses the series on home turf...

Would the aussie players feel additional pressure from their press?

Despite my question i feel that it is more important for england to win the first match than the aussies. If we are to win the series we must maintain our psychological edge gained from last year. Without it we went for so many years without winning.

Oh, and one other reason we were able to win last year was that we kept gilchrist quiet. For me he's the most destructive batsman in the world and we need to repeat our bowling performances against him. But more likely is that he will fire, and it will be interesting to compare him and pieterson like for like...!

Any other head to heads??
 
fela fan said:
Question for snowypat, or any other aussie. How will your press react should england win the first test? I ask in terms of the psychological impact bearing in mind that ponting is known as the captain who lost the ashes to the poms. Being the captain that loses the series on home turf...

Would the aussie players feel additional pressure from their press?

Despite my question i feel that it is more important for england to win the first match than the aussies. If we are to win the series we must maintain our psychological edge gained from last year. Without it we went for so many years without winning.

Oh, and one other reason we were able to win last year was that we kept gilchrist quiet. For me he's the most destructive batsman in the world and we need to repeat our bowling performances against him. But more likely is that he will fire, and it will be interesting to compare him and pieterson like for like...!

Any other head to heads??
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If we lose the first Test it will not be the result of Pontings captaincy it will be the outstanding commitment of the English team,because that is what your boys need to win.Noone that i know will be happy about it but it will be good for the game if that scenerio took place.Australia has an unquenchable thirst to beat England at anything not just cricket,its bred into us to beat the poms,its just the way it is.The press here are a lot different to your press inasmuch as they will always be right in behind the lads rather than slag them off as yours do occasionally.You will find that our press will give credit where it is due and if we are beaten in the first Test then so be it,your fellows will get the accolades they deserve and we will go away and look into the reasons behind our defeat and come out swinging for the next round.You could count on that.We have been likened to a dads army however there are plenty of young bloods ready to take the next step,ie Mitchell,Stew Clarke,Jaques,Cullane and Micheal Clarke as well to come back in.
Gilly has had an ordinary couple of years but he just knocked up a ton in a one dayer against Queensland yesterday so that will do his confidence some good.Not trying to sound condesending but your boys are a red hot chance to do the business if the mind is set right.The pressure is fairly and squarely on us to perform in front of our home crowds whereas all you have to do is draw.
Good luck to you all i think it will be a real tight series with Australia winning 2-1
 
snowypat said:
You will find that our press will give credit where it is due and if we are beaten in the first Test then so be it,your fellows will get the accolades they deserve and we will go away and look into the reasons behind our defeat and come out swinging for the next round.
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I know that from experience, but i have to relate that not so long ago, about the end of the 90s, i was in australia and we had beaten you in a one-dayer. I eagerly bought the newspaper the next day to read up on our victory only to find not a single reference to the game. It was as if it hadn't happened!! Talking about revisionist history.

One way i look at the upcoming series is that we have more of a chance of winning this one than the last one. So much of sport is played in the head and when a team goes on a winning or losing run, it's difficult to change. We did the hard bit last year, and if as you mention mate we play to our abilities then i can't see the ashes changing hands. I really reckon our new lads cook and monty are going to have a flyer...

Personally speaking i think this series is going to be less expensive for me. It will be coffee and breakfast over the cricket rather than beers and dinner time-wise.
 
AS Flashman has aready said"CANT WAIT",only 2 sleeps to go and then its on,the sad fact is i have to work,the great thing is i dont do fuck all so i can spend an uninterupted entire test match listening to it on the ABC.:cool: :cool: There is a god:D
 
jazzz proved an authority on all things leg-spin!

:cool: The forum will have to forgive me for this... but in todays' Guardian, talking of Ian Bell's dismissal padding up to Warne in the last series:

The Australians do not rate him. They believe their bowlers, especially Shane Warne, hold a hex over him. Surprising then that their captain, Ricky Ponting, should admit in his Ashes diary publication that Bell's much talked about second-innings dismissal at Lord's, padding up to what looked like Warne's slider, was in fact a huge piece of luck for Warne. Bell had just left two sharply spinning leg-breaks and it was assumed he had been duped by a well disguised third card. Not so, said Ponting. Warne had confessed afterwards, he said, that it was intended to be another leg-break. It just didn't turn.
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So now the rest of the world knows about that dismissal, although urban75 Ashes thread followers may remember that I revealed it at the time

jazzz said:
...didn't seem to help Bell much, though. Maybe he read Warne too well, and forgot that the pitch might throw a spanner...
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:cool:

JTG said:
You really don't understand cricket do you?
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:p
 
I see there's talk of monty not playing, giles instead. I agree with warne that this is a negative choice and i fear backlash if this happens. I do hope fletcher's not going to bottle it all.
 
113 @ 30 at home. Not bad but not great.

3 @ 41.23 v England, in Australia. He is a better bowler than that obviously but still too much sublime to the ridiculous for me. If he couldn't bat he'd have been dropped by now I feel.

We shall see, but I'll be surprised if he takes more than 20 at a decent average.
 
DrRingDing said:
We (The English) are going to get our heads kicked to fuck.
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Come back to this thread on tuesday which is when i shall be reminding you of your absurd prediction!

Australia are going to lose to the mind games. We have the psychological edge, and we've not had that for two decades. It's worth two tests nearly every time.

It definitely is a pity we don't have trescothick, but i think cook is going to impress, and i also think strauss will step up to fill in the gap and have his best series yet.

I just hope we pick monty and avoid the negative trap we've fallen into down the years when visiting the prison camp.
 
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