The Ashes 2017-18

Discussion in 'general sports' started by planetgeli, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Well his figures don't look too impressive but he actually bowled quite well considering he's a noob and he could easily have had another couple of wickets.
     
  2. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Crane has bowled really well for a first test. The odd loose ball, but mostly tidy and some ripping turn. He needs to be nurtured and brought on in the team. Can see him running through the Aus tail today if they don't declare
     
  3. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    1-193. :eek:

    Didn't quite run through the tail did he?

    But! Fifth day!!

    (Assuming I'm following the same Ashes series as you lot. And there are many, many times when I don't appear to be).
     
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  4. Idaho

    Idaho blah blah blah

    Dismal series...
     
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  5. Spymaster

    Spymaster Cockney Wanker

    You fickle bugger, doom merchant, weather cock!

    It's because we're away from home, Geli. We'd have fucked 'em here! :D
     
  6. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    No, worst figures ever on debut but on the hottest day in Sydney since 1939 I think he can be forgiven.

    Truly has been dismal, when all we can hope for is batting out for a draw for 3-0 and it's painful that we can't hold out much hope of that happening :facepalm::(
     
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  7. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    And they declared too, didn't get a chance :D
     
  8. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    Cricinfo know how to write an obituary.
     
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  9. diond

    diond Well-Known Member

    Shane Warne's figures on his test debut read:
    1-150 from 45 overs against India in Sydney. His overall figures for that series was 1-228 and was dropped for the final test. Useless piece of shit he turned out to be.
     
  10. squirrelp

    squirrelp Banned Banned

    tough gig
     
  11. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Indeed what a waste of space he was, eh? Crane was a bit inconsistent but showed promise and a bit of attitude and could easily have had a few more wickets to his name.

    Anyway, just when England needed an Atherton vs South Africa like great escape led by their captain, he goes and pulls a sickie...

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  12. Puddy_Tat

    Puddy_Tat lumpen proletaricat

    hmm.

    sounds like he's got boycott belly.

    it's like delhi belly, but you get the runs more slowly

    :p

    (not my joke)
     
  13. squirrelp

    squirrelp Banned Banned

    Australia are bouncing the tail like a kangaroo
     
  14. Casual Observer

    Casual Observer binoculars

    Criminal that Anderson was given out caught behind. Curran was looking good for a double tonne at the other end.
     
  15. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    I too am convinced Crane is the next Warne and if only they hadn't spiked Root...who knows what the final score might have been.

    Oh yeah. 4-0.

    Thank fuck that's over.
     
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  16. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    Has there ever been a more ignominious end to a tour than Joe Root's? His team totally outclassed for months and then having to send Jimmy out to handle the final press duties while he himself sat on the bog splurting his guts out. Thank god that's over.
     
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  17. squirrelp

    squirrelp Banned Banned

    Something of a diversion but you might enjoy some highlights of that match. Warne doesn't bowl too badly really. The huge legbreak is there. Just not quite the finished article, overpitching a touch, lacking variation. Shastri was a left arm spinner himself so knows how to hit it.
     
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  18. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    lol @ the miserable bad loser whingeing poms. The Ashes could have been a bit more competitive, however I'm happy with the 4-0 beating. Not quite as thorough as the Mitchell Johnson 5-0 massacre last time around but good enough.

    As one of the TMS commentators said, they couldn't win the Ashes on the pitch, but they certainly won it off the pitch with the Barmy Army.



    "...long to reign over YOU..."
    :D
     
  19. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    A lot of observers thought that Crane didn't bowl too badly either and had a bit of character. Swanny was a bit miffed about the no-ball wicket, but tbh, a spinner shouldn't be bowling anything close to no-balls, so I agree with Boycott on this one...

     
  20. squirrelp

    squirrelp Banned Banned

  21. Casual Observer

    Casual Observer binoculars

    There were a couple of other reviews when Crane was bowling. Not sure if they were before or after the no ball wicket, but both times he was also very close to no balling. As said, a needless mistake from a spinner. Root, on the other hand, had at least half his foot behind the line - before the diarrhoea kicked in anyway.
     
  22. Teaboy

    Teaboy It definitely looks brighter over there..

    Well the whole series was predictably miserable as I suspected, I was slightly wrong in that it wasn't 5-0. Its good that Baylis is going he hasn't advanced the team, he's failed to fix some fairly structural problems and he seems to have little interest in the wider English game sometimes to the point of seeing players in action for the first time when they get picked for England.
     
  23. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    Do the players get to come home before heading to NZ then?
     
  24. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    It's largely a one day circus from here so people like Jimmy get to come home. The one day players seem on a 2 month slog (unless I've read this wrong) first playing Aus (5 games) then a tri-series of T20 against NZ and Aus (god knows how many games) then, erm, five more ODIs against NZ. Then there's a couple of tests against NZ in mid to late March.
     
  25. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    That's absurd. They're going to be so burnt out. It's not even like they're being paid footballer-ish salaries.
     
  26. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Bayliss isn't going. He's staying for another 20 months or so.
     
  27. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    "You off Geoffrey?"
    "I hope so, I've had enough of this"

    Boycott gave Anderson a bit of a hard time just before this chat...


    It always makes me chuckle, the recriminations after any series defeat. There's also a touch of arrogance too, England are expected to win and if they don't there's a full post mortem and inquest. "Why the hell didn't we win." Well, we didn't win because the Australians on this occasion played better at home and managed to sync their good performances.
     
  28. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    ^

    You want to listen to Michael Vaughan on that. On Australia's chances of winning in England (vs England's chances of winning in Australia), on the Test grounds for the next Ashes, on the hopeless preparation we give our spinners, and on Malan vs Stoneman when it comes to practicing to make up for mistakes.

    Makes a lot of sense.
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2018
  29. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Jimmy's answer to Boycott 'its above my pay grade' :hmm:

    Lots of not my job going on?

    Vaughan may be outspoken for the sake of it sometimes but he clearly knows what he's seeing and talking about. Boycott with da mic drop!!
     
  30. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    Indeed Vaughny made some good points, as did Boycs. As with all these things it's easier to tell other people what to do and where they're going wrong than to actually do it yourself. Vaughn didn't win an Ashes in Australia himself. Lots of armchair generals who apparently know what to do. Well if they're so clever give them the job and get them to do it.

    Sometimes you just have to accept that the other team is better, and in this case the Aussies were. They managed to engineer it so that all of their bowlers were fit for the whole series, and if it wasn't for Starc's absence might well have got the whitewash. England didn't have the bowling firepower to put their batsmen under as much pressure. Accept it, move on, and try to improve for the next Ashes.
     

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