The Ashes 2017-18

Discussion in 'general sports' started by planetgeli, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    I don't think the answer to England's test woes is more t20, tbh.
     
  2. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Does anyone do well in India!? And losing to us at home is the exception isnt it? Speaking from memory so apologies if wrong!
     
  3. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    At the WACA, that's how to do it.
     
  4. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    No you're not wrong that until recently, SA had an impressive away record (and an underwhelming home record), but there are signs of this changing.
     
  5. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    No, it’s not. Strike rotation in a five day game is paramount at any venue.
     
  6. redsquirrel

    redsquirrel This Machine Kills Progressives

    Christ no. There's already too much emphasis on players who have done well in the shorter formats of the game coming into the Test team. White and red ball cricket are getting more and more different, if you wanted to do anything encourage county players to go oversees for the winter - and don't constantly run down first class cricket, especially the county championship.
     
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  7. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Not if you're smashing boundaries it isn't. Scoring is paramount at any venue. I don't think your criticism is valid at all. Put away the bad balls and keep out the good ones.

    One word: Inzamam.
     
  8. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    The format no, but the experience of being away in unfamiliar conditions, the ability to learn from the guys they will play against. KP, for all his faults makes the point about how much you can learn in those tournies
     
  9. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    With a left hand right hand partnership you’ll get more bad balls if you rotate. In 2020 I’d agree with you but not across five days.
     
  10. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Not self-serving at all, that opinion? See this shit that pays tons of money - it's great for my game, you know!
     
  11. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    I don't totally agree or disagree, but can see the benefits of both sides. Its not straight forward eh?
     
  12. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    Smith takes singles. Williamson takes singles. Kohli takes singles.
     
  13. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Yes, that's true. But a four is better than a single.
     
  14. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    He isn't the only person that thinks that though, but he is all about him I agree!
     
  15. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    Quite a few do nowadays, tbf.

    To play in the t20 leagues. :D
     
  16. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    So does Root. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just think it's harsh to judge this innings on this pitch using those criteria.
     
  17. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

    Agree. We had 3 proper 1st class fixtures before the victorious 2010/11 series and fielded the Test XI in two of them.

    When the Aussies are a shambles they lose 3-1. When England are a shambles we lose 5-0.
     
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  18. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    In his defence, he has always denied having anything to do with a fake account. Yes he did leave the tour early because he was unable to bowl properly and felt that he had become a liability to the team. I don't think either of those "accusations" disqualify Swanny from making informed comments based on his experience. You may feel anger towards him because you what you perceive to be (incorrectly?) a betrayal and consider him a traitor, however he does make a lot of sense in my opinion and I enjoy his contributions to TMS like I enjoy Boycs, Tuffers and Vaughny. They all add their own unique perspective which is part of what makes TMS utterly brilliant.
     
  19. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    He and broad set that account up and while i don’t have much time for KP he’s far preferable to both of those two utter cunts. And a far better player.

    He’s also the single most irritating commentator I’ve ever heard. He doesn’t appear to actually watch the cricket, preferring to tell anecdotes about his own career. And his comedy accents. Well. Just go away Swanny.
     
  20. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Anyone got a link or screenshots of the tweets.. Sounds funny
     
  21. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    As I said he has denied having anything to do with the twitter account, if you have something other than gossip evidence then feel free to present it. As for playing records, well they're not really comparable. All three have contributed to past England successes and have also been present at English failures.

    I guess this sort of thing is subjective, and if you already believe that he is an "utter cunt" then you probably won't be appreciative of his contributions. In my opinion he's well qualified to comment, he's a former Ashes winner who has performed well for England in the past and has good knowledge of the game. Yeah his comedy accents might be a bit hit and miss (perhaps even just miss) but he does know his stuff. All of the summarisers have stories and anecdotes, that's part of the TMS vibe and I'm happy for him to stay. I guess if you don't really care for him you can always switch over to BT Sport when it's his turn to summarise.
     
  22. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    You'd have to switch back when Swann is on BT!!

    Gilchrist and Punter have been great on BT, have they been on TMS at all?
     
  23. SpookyFrank

    SpookyFrank Ridin' a Stutz Bearcat, Jim

    I struggle to tell the Austalian voices apart on the radio. Shane Warne is the only recognisable one, the rest just sound like the seagulls from Finding Nemo.
     
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  24. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Ashes... Mine!!
     
  25. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    loool, oh yeah I forgot that there's cross BT/TMS pollination.

    I don't think they've been on TMS, I've mainly heard Glenn McGrath, who as been excellent imo. I didn't really like the bits of Gilly that I saw on BT Sport, but tbh I've only seen bits and mostly listen on TMS.
     
  26. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    He's on BT sports. He's a key part of their new wacky approach.

    I tune into the Aussie coverage as even Michael Clarke is preferable to Swann.

    As for the twitter account that's a fairly open secret that he was responsible.
     
  27. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    I preferred the Sky coverage tbh and haven't get got accustomed to the BT Sport coverage which feels a bit "alien" to me.
     
  28. Mumbles274

    Mumbles274 running from law and the press and the parents

    Its the first time i haven't listened to TMS for a long time, just because I got a black Friday deal on BT sport.

    There has been some great interval discussions between Vaughn, Punter, Gilly and KP.. Am i right in thinking Vaughn is no fan of KP? Seems that way and adds to it all :D
     
  29. squirrelp

    squirrelp Banned Banned

    Well congratulations Australia - the better team won.
     
  30. PaoloSanchez

    PaoloSanchez Well-Known Member

    So just gossip evidence then. Fine. I guess you'll also be in agreement with that wonderful and upstanding character that everybody loves, Mr Piers Morgan, some replies to his Swann bashing tweet...









     

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