Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by Jeff Robinson, Dec 6, 2016.
nah you just interpreted it that way
no only referred to me by initials of a name I no longer go by because i am gendelusional ffs, thats violence, ask anyone.
and YES it is that bad. if you are happy to leave what you said so that everyone else can see then 'I cant change that.
OK, so why "fuck Antifa"?
Don't you think that fascism should be confronted on the streets?
the streets no, a fighting ring yes.
Actually I take it back, the Kapo's knew they were Jewish and that they were helping to kill other Jewish people in exchange for a few perks from an anti-semetic ruling order. Class consciousness in the United States doesn't exist to anywhere close enough for a white working class person to consider themselves in common cause with a black working class person on any level or vise-versa- according to what CRI says anyway. There's nothing "class" for Trump voters to feel they are "betraying" iykwim, for them there is no class, only race, work ethics and the American dream or something.
The point is not to have a scrap for the sake of it, the point is to drive out fascists. They don't just post literature and argue their case before those nasty leftists start battering them for no reason, they attempt to move into neighbourhoods and intimidate anyone who doesn't fit in or tolerate their shit.
How would you fuck them?
asking for a mate.
ok i will remove that, apologies
I probably wouldnt tbh they all got well mank hair from what I seen on youtube, I aint managed to see em live yet, hobby commitments and all that.
you'll have to edit your quoted post too
keep fucking websites then
You do understand that the reason they are being violently protested against is that Nazism is a political philosophy that believes in violent oppression of opposition groups. They don't play by the Queensbury rules.
I honestly don't see what's confusing, 3 years after the battle of Cable St, Britain was at war with fascism. Genuinely surprised that in Sept 1939, there wasn't a "we fucking told you so" march around the London east end.
Violence is a principle for them. Better to break them up when they are out of power than face a government of them with wider popular support or acquiescence in the imprisonment, torture and murder of you and tens or even hundreds of thousands of others.
I post that in the name of public safety. Sometimes I just gotta share. Otherwise, I'd take that golf club I keep next to the front door to repel boarders, and run through the streets smiting random people.
Yes, this. Segregation only ended during my lifetime. Busing kids to integrate schools (and resistance to it) was happening while I was in school. The legacy of policies that kept white and non-white working class people in separate spheres (e.g. in housing policy, access to education, employment, trade union colour bars, access to health cover and unemployment insurance, etc.) still has an impact. Republicans emphasise these divisions to keep white, working class people on side. It's the, "you may be poor, but you can better yourself if you try hard, and at least you're a cut above those black and brown people."
I think Trump supporters genuinely believe the president and GOP are on their side and looking after their interests. They don't identify with non-white working class people, and in fact often measure their socio-ecomomic status in relation to them.
Trump supporters, genuinely think the party and president are on their side and looking after their interests. They genuinely don't identify with non-white working class people, and would be horrified at the idea of showing solidarity with people they see as a threat (i.e. myths about violence, criminality, immorality, hypersexuality, etc., and trying to take "our" jobs,) and to be fair, as inherently inferior.
They'll point at liberal (in the American sense) white people as the ones doing the betraying when they advocate for civil rights and racial equality.
Trump supporters are all exactly the same in every way.
Which is why class as an economic relationship (not an identity) is so important
A very British story but nevertheless, what a star.
94-year-old Bletchley Park veteran: I helped defeat the Nazis in 1941 and I'm ready to fight fascism again now
If you talk to Americans and ask them what class they belong to, nearly every one will say "middle class." They might be working at two McJobs and living in substandard housing, or they might be farmer with several sections of land (@ $25K an acre). Or, a bank manager who makes six figures or better. Each and every one will say they're "middle class." You and I both know that isn't true, but that is the lived experience out there. No one on the lower rungs wants to admit they aren't middle class, because that would imply that they're lazy or something. No one on the higher rungs want to admit they aren't middle class, because that would be admitting that maybe the playing field isn't level.
Indeed. And there's a widespread myth that there's no class system in America. And you'll hear that from the very same people who will complain about the type of people who have holiday homes in Martha's Vineyard. And despite the widespread knowledge of terms like "trailer trash" and so on.
It's like a collective amnesia.
Or the more telling term "white trash."
This is a reference to Yair Netanyahu (Netanhayu's son) posting an anti semitic meme on FB
Anglin and the Stormer have been trolling this hard as have others like David Duke. But oddly enough it seems that the source of the meme Yair Netanyahu posted is a Facebook page, 'Tight Memes Against Kakihomoshit Leftists' run by an Israeli alt-right group.
Now Israel has its own version of the ‘alt-right’ - JTA
The alt-right: Reactionary rehabilitation for white masculinity
Cheers for that. Very interesting.
I did find myself wondering about odd parallels with socially conservative 'red tories' - 'nostalgia' for a fantasy of post-war social democracy, 'class' as a performance of masculinity, "It's Identity Politics Gone Mad!!" etc. etc. But no doubt I'm once again failing to understand.
In Seattle, apparently...
Pepe the Frog’s Creator Goes Legally Nuclear Against the Alt-Right
Opinion | Undercover With the Alt-Right
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