The 90s activist world!

[poster342002]

To be honest, juggling and unicycling never was going to send the capitalist system running for the hills.

I also agree with treelover that a lot of other important issues got sidelined abandoned round about then, too, and labour's election seemed to trigger a further downturn interms of general struggle.

 

[bluestreak]

To be honest, juggling and unicycling never was going to send the capitalist system running for the hills.

good point. fortunately nothing i've scanned so far seems to be anything to do with jugglers against capitalism or anything like that, so we don't need to worry about perpetuating bollocks like that, innit.

 

[treelover]

Actually it was Poi, seriously....

 

[free spirit]

this is kinda related to this thread... was just having a nose about the web & thought I'd check out the squall website, and it seems that it no longer exists

anyone know if the old articles that were on there have been archived anywhere, I used to like squall, though they seemed to have stopped doing much a while back.

 

[laptop]

Somewhere I have some websites that I archived that documented Claremont Road... even, maybe, a Japanese RTS website that I never managed to get translated!

There's a fair amount up at http://rts.gn.apc.org - check http://rts.gn.apc.org/archive.htm to see what links still work!

 

[rollinder]

this is kinda related to this thread... was just having a nose about the web & thought I'd check out the squall website, and it seems that it no longer exists

anyone know if the old articles that were on there have been archived anywhere,

have you tried the internet archive? http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

 

[poster342002]

good point. fortunately nothing i've scanned so far seems to be anything to do with jugglers against capitalism or anything like that, so we don't need to worry about perpetuating bollocks like that, innit.

Yeah, but - come on! My enduring memory of all those 90s demos was of an assortment of wannabe circus-acts juggling, unicycling and bongo-drumming their way (unsuccesfully, in most cases) against this or that issue.

 

[Miss-Shelf]

Yeah, but - come on! My enduring memory of all those 90s demos was of an assortment of wannabe circus-acts juggling, unicycling and bongo-drumming their way (unsuccesfully, in most cases) against this or that issue.

now we have samba!

 

[bluestreak]

Yeah, but - come on! My enduring memory of all those 90s demos was of an assortment of wannabe circus-acts juggling, unicycling and bongo-drumming their way (unsuccesfully, in most cases) against this or that issue.

haha, well, i can't deny that there was a certain woven-yoghurt element to many of the various movements, but for the greatest part it was that many of these people merely thought that their fucking poi was good entertainment, rather than that poi itself would bring down the edifice of global capitalism. the vast majority of us had sensible pastimes that we left at home when the media were likely to poke their lenses at us.

mind you, i have to admit that i personally wasn't the best advertisment for a kinder, nicer world. fortunately no pictures survive - though the chap i lived in a treehouse with in leytonstone seems to have been a regular face-in-the-crowd and i must also add in the interests of honesty that the reason he appears to have george clinton's hairdresser (on a day when the morning coffee contained large doses of 2cb) was because whilst tatting once we'd found a crate of wool....

 

[treelover]

Imo, there was also a fair bit of ageism, even dare i say it, disablism: if you weren't young, fit and up for 'having it' you weren't with the programme!

 

[treelover]

laptop, i reckon you were one of the tops in rts?

 

[Buds and Spawn]

laptop, i reckon you were one of the tops in rts?

'tops' - in a DISorganisation - never

Hierarchy of the most committed excepted of course

Oh' - and the fact it was all spontaneous - honest m' lud

 

[bluestreak]

Imo, there was also a fair bit of ageism, even dare i say it, disablism: if you weren't young, fit and up for 'having it' you weren't with the programme!

completely disagree, at least regards the roads protest movement. RTS were fairly well mixed too, but the social mix involved IME with the No M11 Campaign and the Third Battle often seemed like strange bedfellows.

 

[laptop]

Hierarchy of the most committed excepted of course

Want rather dusty copies of The Tyranny of Structurelessness and The Tyrrany of Tyranny?

 

[Blagsta]

Imo, there was also a fair bit of ageism, even dare i say it, disablism: if you weren't young, fit and up for 'having it' you weren't with the programme!

I seem to recall a 90 year old woman (Dolly?) at the M11 protest.

 

[Thora]

now we have samba!

Why do they only play one fucking song though The Infernal Noise Brigade are better.

 

[bluestreak]

I seem to recall a 90 year old woman (Dolly?) at the M11 protest.

yep.

she was a bloody star. there were a few other OAPs too, all locals.

some photos will eventually be provided.

they were great though. the police didn't really know what to do when faced with a line of pensioners.

at least one occasion though training and instinct kicked in and a frail old woman was treated to some summary justice.

actually, i think i can honestly say that was the moment when the police lost me forever. that no copper stepped in as a little old lady was knocked to the ground in anger by a colleague. lost me forever. couldn't give a fuck if he got reprimanded back at the station, whatever, it didn;t happen there and then. since then i've seen enough violence ignored to know that it's just sides and that law, jsutice, these things are abstract terms laid down by the powerful to keep people in line, it's really just sides and power struggles, same as it always has been.

 

[Buds and Spawn]

Want rather dusty copies of The Tyranny of Structurelessness and The Tyrrany of Tyranny?

A kind offer to be sure, but I'm actually pruning my own piles of dusty agit prop and critical theory of years gone by

 

[Mr Smin]

"All work on here is to be considered copyright. I am generally happy to allow use of my work providing I am asked first. However I assert my rights as the author of all material and copy on londoninflames. 2005, 2006, 2007."

You _really_ need to review that statement. Rebel-types will ignore it, but it comes over very badly - especially in relation to stuff like EF!-AU which is anti-copyright. I'm guessing the statement is left over from before you started collecting ephemera but it now reads like you are trying some kind of intellectual-property land-grab.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

ok. its taken me a while to get it together. but here's some blurry snaps of things.

Trafalgar Muzik mag

Never Mind The Ballots, Reclaim The Streets

Slightly fuzzy text

Street PARTY!!!!!

 

[yield]

That's grand. Thanks Paulie Tandoori.

 

[Paulie Tandoori]

cheers

 

[laptop]

ok. its taken me a while to get it together. but here's some blurry snaps of things.

Trafalgar Muzik mag

Never Mind The Ballots, Reclaim The Streets

Slightly fuzzy text

Street PARTY!!!!!

http://rts.gn.apc.org/imlib.htm

Hi-rez of most of those

 

[Groucho]

I might have some stuff I could dig up.

 

[Steve Booth]

This is a really good idea as there is a lot of stuff out there, no doubt lodged in peoples' boxes and attics.

Is there a comparable effort going into what is happening now? I distrust things like Google and Wikipedia but it ought to be possible to build up an archive and to catalogue things going on in the present.

 

[bluestreak]

Cheers Paulie. I'll download those and when i get to them I will add them to my webpage with full credits.

Groucho, if you could that would be top. Or you could email them to me if you don't have hosting... ninetiesactivist AT googlemail.com

Steve, I really don't know. I guess I'm doing this because other people aren't. I can't devote it the time or effort it deserves and I have no idea how to get my humble and obscure website into a position where people searching for this sort of stuff can find it. I guess I'll harass Crispy until he helps me.

londoninflames.blogspot.com

 

[bluestreak]

"All work on here is to be considered copyright. I am generally happy to allow use of my work providing I am asked first. However I assert my rights as the author of all material and copy on londoninflames. 2005, 2006, 2007."

You _really_ need to review that statement. Rebel-types will ignore it, but it comes over very badly - especially in relation to stuff like EF!-AU which is anti-copyright. I'm guessing the statement is left over from before you started collecting ephemera but it now reads like you are trying some kind of intellectual-property land-grab.

Yeah, good call - I'll change that.

 

[Taxamo Welf]

I dunno if anyone is interested but I've started an ongoing project to document what I can of the ephemera of the UK protest and activism scene. Masses of literature was produced - flyers, pamphlets, magazines, articles etc, of which very little seems to still exist.

Do or Die, Schnews...?!

wtf