That medal table's looking good

[ScallyWag II]

Chris Hoy said they (as in international cycling) had to junk some of the cycling (mostly the women's events ) to make space for BMX. No problem here with including BMX, but it seems crazy that there were (men and women) cyclists unable to defend their golds just because a couple of extra events were being held at an entirely different venue.

Is there a finite number of events then?

 

[ymu]

Is there a finite number of events then?

Prezactly! What did the pool swimmers have to give up from their 36 medals to let the open-water events in? Fuck all AFAIK - but some of them have a new event to try for. Yet cycling get reduced to 10 to allow BMX in?

There are cyclists who only have one event left, and others who gave up BMX to pursue a medal who now find that their event has been cancelled for BMX. Meanwhile in the pool ... no difference, except that the long distance pool swimmers have found an extra event for week 2.

 

[ScallyWag II]

Prezactly! What did the pool swimmers have to give up from their 36 medals to let the open-water events in? Fuck all AFAIK - but some of them have a new event to try for. Yet cycling get reduced to 10 to allow BMX in?

There are cyclists who only have one event left, and others who gave up BMX to pursue a medal who now find that their event has been cancelled for BMX. Meanwhile in the pool ... no difference, except that the long distance pool swimmers have found an extra event for week 2.

That's a bit unfair. Presumably some other event unrelated to swimming had to make way for the open water swim marathons? Don't see why they can't just add more events, especially if they are held at different venues. Or am i just being greedy?

 

[ymu]

That's a bit unfair. Presumably some other event unrelated to swimming had to make way for the open water swim marathons? Don't see why they can't just add more events, especially if they are held at different venues. Or am i just being greedy?

I have no idea what the system is, but it seems to depend on the international sports federations involved. Maybe it's because cycling took up the cause of BMX instead of making them go it alone as a separate sport? I honestly don't know - but the cyclists had to agree which events they'd give up to let the new ones in, whilst the swimmers did not.

I'm bitching about the IOC, not the swimmers - in case it isn't obvious.

 

[ScallyWag II]

I have no idea what the system is, but it seems to depend on the international sports federations involved. Maybe it's because cycling took up the cause of BMX instead of making them go it alone as a separate sport? I honestly don't know - but the cyclists had to agree which events they'd give up to let the new ones in, whilst the swimmers did not.

I'm bitching about the IOC, not the swimmers - in case it isn't obvious.

Will be interesting to see what gets included in 2012, seeing how strong GB have been in cycling, might get some events reinstated? Interesting!

 

[Melinda]

The BBC have had a ago at re-organising the Medal Table according to different criteria.

 

[TrippyLondoner]

You got the link to that,mel?

 

[Melinda]

You got the link to that,mel?

For your pleasure

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7576446.stm

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Thanks! lol, they actually found a system that ranks togo in 3rd place!

 

[Melinda]

Talk about getting used to winning!

We have won one gold medal in the last 48 hours and our six-gold advantage has almost disappeared entirely
BBC's Matt Slater

Matt Slater has made a contribution to the medal table of precisely zero!

 

[TrippyLondoner]

Love how Brits like Matt always focus on the negatives.

 

[JTG]

I very much doubt that's a genuine complaint. It's amusing to be able to make a mock complaint about a lack of medals when so many have already been won.

We need some sort of table of tables to show the true position

 

[ScallyWag II]

47 medals in total now! And 19 of them gold!

What was the target? Can't remember exactly, but i'm sure it was far less than that! 19G - 13S - 15B. That's not a bad little haul tbf

 

[JTG]

UK Sport set a target of 41 medals 12-13 golds I think

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

UK Sport set a target of 41 medals 12-13 golds I think

Yep

Sports minister Gerry Sutcliffe has told the BBC "it is vital" that Team GB reaches the target of 41 medals from the Beijing Olympics.

"That is a serious target," said Sutcliffe. "We want it to be achieved."
But BBC Sport research and statistics from the former head of the Italian Olympic Committee, Luciano Barra, suggest GB should exceed that goal.
UK Sport has demanded 10 to 12 gold medals, but Barra projects a British haul extending to 18 golds.

The minimum UK Sport expects the British team to achieve in Beijing is 35 medals, with 41 their stated ideal ambition.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Blimey, this guy is GOOD

Barra, whose projections correctly ranked Britain 10th in 2004, places GB fourth in Beijing with a tally of 48 medals

 

[marty21]

UK Sport set a target of 41 medals 12-13 golds I think

didn't they up the target once they'd got to 41? at uk sport

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Barra's predictions for Beijing

 

[ScallyWag II]

No complaints then eh

And plenty of potential for more.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

No complaints then eh

And plenty of potential for more.

in what?

 

[ScallyWag II]

Blimey, this guy is GOOD

Who is Barra Miinie?

 

[JTG]

I did post about Barra's predictions before the Games began but it didn't get much response. Hardly dared hope he was right but he looks pretty much spot on to be fair to him

 

[ScallyWag II]

in what?

bmx, diving, pentathlon, taekwando, boxing, swimming marathons, windsurfing to name a few! Probably qute a few more where we have either not done as well as expected, like the mens triple jump, and a few where we surprised ourselves

 

[ScallyWag II]

I did post about Barra's predictions before the Games began but it didn't get much response. Hardly dared hope he was right but he looks pretty much spot on to be fair to him

Just googled Barra and got some island as a result. Who is he? Impressive predictions tbf from what Minnie and you say!

 

[JTG]

He's a former head of the Italian Olympic Committee. Basically before each Games he looks at current form, performances in recent world championships etc etc and then predicts the medals count for each nation. As stated, he's scarily good at it.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Just googled Barra and got some island

try narrowing your search down

 

[ScallyWag II]

He's a former head of the Italian Olympic Committee. Basically before each Games he looks at current form, performances in recent world championships etc etc and then predicts the medals count for each nation. As stated, he's scarily good at it.

Ta! Spot on near enough, or does this mean we might medal in the mens marathon?

try narrowing your search down

I am rubbish at searching

 

[twistedAM]

I am rubbish at searching

Yeah not everyone gets paid to fuck around on the internet at work everyday

 

[marty21]

Just googled Barra and got some island as a result. Who is he? Impressive predictions tbf from what Minnie and you say!

it's a nice island, i went there 26 years ago

 

[London_Calling]

He got the Russians badly wrong - but the rest is indeed impressive.