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I think Bernie sent Yammy off to the USMC recruiting office to get some leaflets... last seen heading to the bathroom, so he may be some time. :)
 
TAE said:
...anything that condones the use of force in that situation would have made them into instant hypocrytes...
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What about actions that aid in the rescue of other hostages? Would that make them "hypocrytes"?

Released hostages 'refuse to help their rescuers'
By Oliver Poole in Baghdad
(Filed: 25/03/2006)

The three peace activists freed by an SAS-led coalition force after being held hostage in Iraq for four months refused to co-operate fully with an intelligence unit sent to debrief them, a security source claimed yesterday.

The claim has infuriated those searching for other hostages.
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Ahh. You're back. I trust you washed your hands. :)

Maybe they should have 'debriefed' the hostages harder...

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Backatcha Bandit said:
Ahh. You're back. I trust you washed your hands. :)

Maybe they should have 'debriefed' the hostages harder...

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If the military wants thanks for saving human life, what do they want for destroying it?
 
rogue yam said:
What about actions that aid in the rescue of other hostages? Would that make them "hypocrytes"?

Source
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First of all, sorry about the second 'y' - that should, of course, have been an 'i'. My mistake.

If they are against US/UK military operations in Iraq, then why on earth would they want to help the army to carry out such activities? The article says they are no co-operating fully, so perhaps they are helping with information which would be useful to the police and refusing to give information which would be useful to the army for causing further bloodshed.
 
As someone suggested in the Belmont Club site, next time one of these CPTers is kidnapped, the best way to ensure no rescue attempt, and thus no endangering of human life, is for the CPT to NOT go public with the fact of the kidnapping. That way, the Coalition won't know about it, and no rescue will be attempted. As an added bonus, the martyrdom of the CPT members will be complete, and will be witnessed only by the One who really matters to them: God.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
As someone suggested in the Belmont Club site, next time one of these CPTers is kidnapped, the best way to ensure no rescue attempt, and thus no endangering of human life, is for the CPT to NOT go public with the fact of the kidnapping. That way, the Coalition won't know about it, and no rescue will be attempted. As an added bonus, the martyrdom of the CPT members will be complete, and will be witnessed only by the One who really matters to them: God.
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Good point, and one that neatly exposes the double game these leftists are playing. They go over there for the purpose of propagandizing against the war, knowing that this puts them in harm's way. Then when some of them get snatched, they publicly bemoan the "descent into chaos" and the "hopelessness" of the Coalition's cause that their kidnapping supposedly represents. Then, if rescued, this is one more opportunity to bemoan "violence" (as if all violent acts are morally and tactically equivalent) and call for unilateral surrender by the Coalition. They should at the very least be billed for the costs of their rescue and the monies so collected should then ostentatiously be used to buy more bullets for our troops. "Yeah, we got yer 'pacifism' right here! Locked and loaded, hippies!"
 
rogue yam said:
Good point, and one that neatly exposes the double game these leftists are playing. They go over there for the purpose of propagandizing against the war, knowing that this puts them in harm's way. Then when some of them get snatched, they publicly bemoan the "descent into chaos" and the "hopelessness" of the Coalition's cause that their kidnapping supposedly represents. Then, if rescued, this is one more opportunity to bemoan "violence" (as if all violent acts are morally and tactically equivalent) and call for unilateral surrender by the Coalition. They should at the very least be billed for the costs of their rescue and the monies so collected should then ostentatiously be used to buy more bullets for our troops. "Yeah, we got yer 'pacifism' right here! Locked and loaded, hippies!"
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Around here, when dumbass skiiers ski out of bounds, get lost, and end up spending a cold night in the mountains, they get a bill after their dumb asses are pulled out of the freezer by Search and Rescue. Same principle.
 
Johnny Canuck2 said:
As someone suggested in the Belmont Club site, next time one of these CPTers is kidnapped, the best way to ensure no rescue attempt, and thus no endangering of human life, is for the CPT to NOT go public with the fact of the kidnapping. That way, the Coalition won't know about it, and no rescue will be attempted. As an added bonus, the martyrdom of the CPT members will be complete, and will be witnessed only by the One who really matters to them: God.
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Allahu Akbar :D
 
who was that american lass who was captured by the iragi forces in the early stages of the war, they then returned her - the americans shot at the ambulance returning her - but made out they rescuded her. J something :confused:

edit to add: ah! someone has already made the point I was going to make.
 
riot sky said:
who was that american lass who was captured by the iragi forces in the early stages of the war, they then returned her - the americans shot at the ambulance returning her - but made out they rescuded her. J something :confused:

edit to add: ah! someone has already made the point I was going to make.
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Don't start that again...
 
riot sky said:
who was that american lass who was captured by the iragi forces in the early stages of the war, they then returned her - the americans shot at the ambulance returning her - but made out they rescuded her. J something :confused:

edit to add: ah! someone has already made the point I was going to make.
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Jessica Lynch I believe :D
 
Maybe. I like JC2, he's a good bloke, and if we all harboured the things that we posted in the past then I'd be fucked :D
 
riot sky said:
Maybe. I like JC2, he's a good bloke, and if we all harboured the things that we posted in the past then I'd be fucked :D
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I take it he PMs you at times sky...fair dooos ;)

Now ask him why he's got me on ignore!
 
Vimto, you were off ignore long enough for me to read that next post, so I can answer the question for rs's benefit.

Vimto, you're on ignore because you're a boring and tiresome person whom I have no time for.

Now, back on ignore for you.....

Heigh ho.....
 
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