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rogue yam said:How so? Do you really draw no distinction between the self-interested whim of a dictator and the just verdict of a democratically-constituted court of law?
pmsl.
you mean you actually believe this tripe?
rogue yam said:How so? Do you really draw no distinction between the self-interested whim of a dictator and the just verdict of a democratically-constituted court of law?
No, you were saying something more. But if you've now thought better of it then that is good.moono said:My point was though that hanging thirteen Iraqis contributed to Fox getting topped.
No, you were saying something more. But if you've now thought better of it then that is good.
Bear in mind that the Iraqi 'government' hung thirteen 'insurgents' just prior to Fox's murder. I thought that part of the justification for this nightmare was to prevent people being hung a dozen at a time.
spring-peeper said:Thank you for rescuing our hostages - and without firing a shot
Originally Posted by spring-peeper
Thank you for rescuing our hostages - and without firing a shot
Well, I'm heartened to see other Brits display a lot more decency and common sense than you do:TAE said:I see nothing wrong with their group's statement, and I rather like this paragraph:
SourceGeneral Sir Mike Jackson, the head of the British Army, expressed the unhappiness of the military last night when he told Channel 4 News that he was “saddened that there doesn’t seem to have been a note of gratitude for the soldiers who risked their lives to save those lives”.
Before flying out of Baghdad on an RAF aircraft yesterday, Professor Kember and his two fellow hostages released a brief statement that said nothing about the rescue force. It read simply: “We are deeply grateful for all those who prayed for our release. We don’t have words to describe our feelings, our joy and gratitude. Our heads are swirling; when we are ready, we will speak to the media.”
It was the third set of comments Professor Kember had relayed to the media that failed to mention his rescuers. A lengthy statement released by CPT after the hostages’ rescue on Thursday not only failed to thank their rescuers, but called on coalition forces to withdraw from Iraq.
RESCUE FIGURESvimto said:General Sir Mike Jackson, the head of the British Army is a cunt...
And what the fuck has that got to do with the fact that General Sir Mike Jackson, the head of the British Army is a cunt?rogue yam said:RESCUE FIGURES
The hunt for Norman Kember and his fellow hostages involved:
250 men from the Task Force Black US/British/Australian counter-kidnap unit
100 men from Task Force Maroon, the Paras and Royal Marines backing special forces
15 men in helicopter crews
AND tens of thousands of pounds spent on helicopter and transport aircraft flights
and occasioned ZERO words of thanks to the military from the rescued. Good work, "Christians".
You're a liar and an idiot. The CPT dishonestly added their faint and patently insincere thanks to the troops after their disgraceful ingratitude earned them worldwide condemnation.vimto said:This Christian group has already thanked the coallition troops who freed the hostages...bearing in mind that the hostage takers had left the scene well before the said coallition troops done the freeing.
It's at the same link as the previous bit. Why do you need links if you're not going to follow them?vimto said:Oh...and do you have a link to your last piece of cut and paste yam?
Heheherogue yam said:You're a liar and an idiot.

No you're not. I don't swing that way.vimto said:I'm gonna have fun with you freepboy
No, he is an arse, and viewed as such by many in the armed forces.rogue yam said:Well, I'm heartened to see other Brits display a lot more decency and common sense than you do:
Source
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329442679-103550,00.htmlIraq hostages 'were saved by rift among kidnappers'
· Guards got cold feet after American was shot
· Returning Kember 'failed to say thanks to rescuers'
Jonathan Steele in Amman, Ewen MacAskill and Richard Norton-Taylor
Saturday March 25, 2006
Guardian
The British hostage Norman Kember and his two Canadian colleagues owe their freedom to a rift among their Iraqi kidnappers, a western security source close to the rescue operation said yesterday.
The source said their guards got cold feet when more senior and ruthless members of the group turned up at the house in Baghdad and took away a fourth hostage, Mr Kember's American colleague, Tom Fox, and shot him dead...
..But the guards holding Mr Kember and his colleagues were part of a cell motivated by money rather than politics. "It's a bit absurd that they consider themselves innocent, even though they were looking for money. They don't see themselves as criminals," the source said. "The guards were involved, which is why it was a soft operation. They played a significant role in allowing the authorities to find the hostages."
He added: "The death of Fox changed the whole thing. Someone higher up the chain took him away. Because the ante had gone up and it had become more serious, it's quite possible that the operation began to open up and they got nervous about the repercussion." He said the "higher-ups" who took Mr Fox did not initially intend to kill him. Examination of his body found dumped by a road two weeks ago did not show signs of torture, as first reported, the source insisted. Nor did he seem to have been killed execution-style. It was more likely that there was a scuffle or an attempt to run away which led to his death.

Very aptBackatcha Bandit said:Someone just commented that this looks like another press 'lynching'... as in 'Jessica'![]()

Examination of his body found dumped by a road two weeks ago did not show signs of torture, as first reported, the source insisted. Nor did he seem to have been killed execution-style. It was more likely that there was a scuffle or an attempt to run away which led to his death.
Actually, yes. They did not ask for the soldiers to save them.rogue yam said:Good work, "Christians".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329441431-103550,00.htmlBritish troops make 'flawless' hostage rescue
James Sturcke
Thursday March 23, 2006
Guardian Unlimited
When Jack Straw revealed this morning that "British military personnel" had been involved into today's operation to release the three hostages in Iraq, he effectively confirmed that the SAS had chalked up another success in their illustrious 65-year history.
Although officials have been reluctant to give out detailed information so soon after the raid, the foreign secretary did say that it took place early today and that "mercifully, no shots were fired".
The Ministry of Defence also confirmed that British troops had played a "prominent role" in the rescue operation, which took place in western Baghdad.
John Reid, the defence secretary, said the operation, "spearheaded by British troops" had been "several weeks" in the planning.
God, they don't half write some shite. 
Was there a big fire fight commando thingy thing like thing when the peaceniks were eventually freed?Backatcha Bandit said:Just for fun, let's compare the article I've posted above with this unmitigated pile of flag-waving wank from the same publication: http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329441431-103550,00.html
"effectively confirmed that the SAS had chalked up another success in their illustrious 65-year history"God, they don't half write some shite.
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Dunno. Ask Yammy...vimto said:Was there a big fire fight commando thingy thing like thing when the peaceniks were eventually freed?
Looks as if Johnny and yam are having a real good time to meBackatcha Bandit said:Dunno. Ask Yammy...
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