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Thank You Games Makers

Discussion in 'Olympics 2012' started by Maltin, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. lighterthief

    lighterthief Well-Known Member

    Who have coughed up if the volunteers had in fact been paid? Presumably the taxpayer, via a private sector company (eg G4S).
     
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  2. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    I was amazed that a couple of hundred thousand people applied to be volunteers - thought it would be a damp squib and no one would want to be a volunteer - but talking to my work mate he had one of the best experiences of his life - and said that there were plenty of other volunteers who had come from outside the UK
     
  3. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Sorry, what straw man are you arguing with here?
    Didn't say volunteers were coerced or hard-done-by or any other nonsense you've made up in your head. I think volunteering for a good cause is great. What I'm saying, is that, THIS WAS NOT A GOOD CAUSE.

    What's truly sad is that we can't tell the difference anymore.
     
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  4. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    The state this country is in :( (not unrelated to the fact that we're a nation of mugs and pushovers)
     
  5. lighterthief

    lighterthief Well-Known Member

    I actually think the volunteers demonstrated everything right about this country, that not everyone is driven by self-interest.
     
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  6. fractionMan

    fractionMan Custom Title

    ...other than the people who organised the games, who were driven by nothing more than self-interest and profit. So driven they got volunteers to make them even more money at everyone else's expense.

    Yeah, woop for that. Go us.
     
  7. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Again, this is genuinely sad, that you can't recognise the difference between the genuine selflessness which loads of people demonstrate every day, and this daftness.
     
  8. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    the volunteers did volunteer, that is pretty selfless imo - as are people who volunteer for non-Olympic stuff
     
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  9. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    She didn't volunteer to help enrich private companies though. By all accounts game makers had a great experience.

    There are enough threads about the awful private companies and evil capitalism. Despite that lots of positive experiences came out of the Games for a lot of people. Let them enjoy the good bits.
     
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  10. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    The guy at work gave up 2 weeks annual leave for the Olympics - he loves going on holiday but thought this was a once in a life time experience - and he doesn't regret it.
     
  11. fractionMan

    fractionMan Custom Title

    It's like 'volunteering' to go abroad and do charity work. People do it because they want a holiday/experience.
     
  12. quimcunx

    quimcunx Too tall.

    Do people who volunteer in hospices not get something from it?

    I'm not arguing the selfless bit by the way.

    Just Lo Siento's ridiculous premise that people volunteered because they wanted to make private companies richer. Or that people should only be allowed to volunteer from his pre approved list of causes.
     
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  13. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    They were speaking to a couple of Gamesmakers earlier and asking them what they're going to do now. They suggested they may appply to become volunteers in Rio
     
  14. fractionMan

    fractionMan Custom Title

    Oh no, I'm sure a lot of the experience is the feeling of worth one gets from doing good, helping out, keeping busy, whatever.

    I've not got a problem with it tbh, other than in this case where the saved money doesn't get ploughed into better services but into fatter profits. My problem is with the model, and the fact they can get away with it, not the people who volunteered. I have this same problem with a few 'charities' too.
     
  15. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Regardless of the wrongs and rights of them offering their services for free to rich fat cats, I'm sure a lot of Gamesmakers got to meet famous athletes, watch sporting events for free, spend weeks watching people happy, knowing that they were in part responsible etc. which is more than what some of the public got who were unable to even get tickets to the Park.

    Sadly, there were plenty that did not even get into a single event. Spoke to a few of the mobility shuttle bus drivers and none of them had managed to get to see an event/get tickets. :(
     
  16. lighterthief

    lighterthief Well-Known Member

    Sigh. Haters gonna hate I guess.

    :shrugs:
     
  17. fractionMan

    fractionMan Custom Title

    wat
     
  18. Kanda

    Kanda Diving wanker

    I'm gonna high five you everytime you come to the pub :)
     
  19. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Don't you dare :D
     
  20. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Are all volunteers inherently selfless and praiseworthy then? No matter how shit the cause?
     
  21. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    That is de facto what she did. The fact that she didn't perceive it as such is irrelevant.
     
  22. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Ok, so the cause was terrible but they enjoyed doing it. So why should I praise them for it?
     
  23. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    well, I'm not in favour of people volunteering to help the bnp
     
  24. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    (a) I didn't say they volunteered because they wanted to make private companies richer. I said that was what they, in fact, did.
    and (b) Allowed? Where is this allowed coming in? I just didn't think they deserved praise or thanks for it.
     
  25. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    Right so, I wasn't in favour of the Olympics, so logically...
     
  26. marty21

    marty21 One on one? You're crazy.

    so logically you hate the Olympic Volunteers and I hate BNP volunteers
     
  27. Minnie_the_Minx

    Minnie_the_Minx someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox

    Nobody's asking you to praise them for it
     
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  28. gosub

    gosub ~#

    My only concern about games makers is that they are responsible for the impending smug speech by Cameron on big society
     
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  29. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    With great justification. The Olympics have been a model of how the big society is intended to work - volunteers doing work that should be paid, private companies pocketing the profits.
     
  30. Lo Siento.

    Lo Siento. Second As Farce

    That was the intention of the OP!
     

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