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Test tube steak...the future of food

Reno

The In Kraut
I'm saying animal cells are animal cells, their DNA is animal dna no matter whether they're grown in a field or a lab. Just because this steak didn't grow up wandering a field doesn't make this "not-animal". I'd be interested in what vegans have to say about it but this pescaterian won't be eating labcow
Most vegans (not one cohesive hive-mind, btw) would disapprove of being a pescaterian, so why are you giving a shit about what they'll have to say about this ? Are you saying you can't see the difference between lab grown cell cultures and living creatures who are prone to abuse when it comes to industrial farming ? Are you aware of the environmental damage industrial farming of livestock causes, including fish farms and the massive over-fishing that goes on ?

Pro-lifers claim that from the moment of conception a fetus is a human being whose right to life equals that of the mother. Can you see the correlation with your argument ? The cell cultures grown for food never even have the chance to develop into anything that lives or feels, so what’s with the moral objections ?
 
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mr steev

magic thought wizard
Did you watch the video?
They are not raising cattle. Its not foetal at all. They are growing beef from beef cells...in petrie dishes.
Yes, I have watched it. What is the 'nutrient dense serum' that they add to the cells? As I understand it, virtually all lab grown meat use a 'meat broth' or fetal serum. You don't just put some cells in a petri dish and watch them grow.
 

Lupa

Well-Known Member
Yes, I have watched it. What is the 'nutrient dense serum' that they add to the cells? As I understand it, virtually all lab grown meat use a 'meat broth' or fetal serum. You don't just put some cells in a petri dish and watch them grow.
Ok.. you're objecting to fetal serum?

Here's some more info. There is a move to use something other than feral serum.

The Science Behind Lab-Grown Meat
 

Reno

The In Kraut
"Test tube meat" takes us back to an even earlier thread on this subject - from 2005..!
The reason why this has been making the science news in 2018 is because back then it was a theory, now its close to being reality. The technology is there, the only thing in its way are regulations and cost. They aren't at a point where they can produce an actual steak, with muscle and fat texture but they can make convicting ground beef and processed meat products like burgers and sausages. Steak, etc is a few years away.

A new lab-grown meat startup may have overcome a key barrier to making meat without slaughter
 

ferrelhadley

These violent delights have violent ends.
The primary climate concern over red meats is methane. Methane
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Which is in the order of 0.6-0.07w/m2 or about 20-25% of the net human sourced radiative forcing. (image from IPCC AR5)

Agriculture is a significant source of greenhouse gasses


Figure 13 from
http://www.wri.org/sites/default/files/Shifting_Diets_for_a_Sustainable_Food_Future_1.pdf

Beef is very resource intensive in terms of land, water and CO2e. So finding a substitute that has a much lower impact will likely be a more rapid way of reducing that impact than trying and waiting for a major shift in diet choices, though this will depend the resources required for the new technology. In vitro meat is making claims of 70-90% lower CO2e, 99% lower land use and 80% lower water use.


Some of the objections to this seem to be being made by simpletons.
 
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