Terry Nutkins dead.....

Interesting - so if I knew about a case of abuse involving a deceased person that would cause lots of pain to various people if I exposed it, then I could choose whether or not a lot of people suffer, but there would be no moral culpability for me either way.

Does this only work if I am the abused party or would this work as well if I wanted to shift some media content and associated advertising copy?

 

What's this bourgeois "moral culpability" rubbish?
Should a person feel that they must keep silent purely from fear of hurting the relatives of an abuser? No, they shouldn't. Abusers often deploy a similar argument against their victims - "don't tell, because it will upset people". Think about how adhering to that long-term might psychologically affect an abuse survivor.

Ooh, nice bit of insinuation there!

 

Ever since the Jimmy Savile story broke I have been feeling really fragile and distressed over the abuse I suffered at the hands of Terry Nutkins and, even worse, the response I received from the BBC complaints line when I phoned them TWICE to report concerns that Terry was a danger to children.

Adults who experienced abuse as children really do suffer horribly for the rest of our lives because of the abuse, but also, because of not being believed and / or because people tell us that we are making a big deal over nothing.

I have been in therapy for years, trained as a therapist, worked as a therapist and still I am in shock over the emotional impact that all this shit has had on me over the last 3 weeks or so.

While Old Fossil's posts upset and angered me I am also very grateful to her for posting as I think that, as someone who is evidently concerned to protect Nutkins' family from distress, her posts are very, very validating of what happened to me and to Woburn Girl, even though she did not mean them to be. I mean if the person defending Nutkins, as OF is, is also stating that he was a predatory and manipulative man who had an unhealthy interest in young girls and who sexually assaulted her then it really says something quite profound about Terry Nutkins and his proclivities.

Grrrrr

 

This still doesn't appear to have hit the media - too busy with Savile atm - when it does, it'll be a bigger shock than the Savile expose - rumours abounded about Savile, not afaik about Nutkins

 

You're right on all of this, of course. I'm a bit wary of creating a special hermetically-sealed loop where someone becomes completely innocent of whatever they unleash due to themselves being the victim of something terrible, though.

As has been said, Nutkins was a damaged person himself...

Maybe, though I can't remember what i was insinuating.

 

I heard some years ago.....mostly about him being a fucking tyrant to work with, but also for his attentions towards young girls....

...when he died I wondered if anything would come out....give it time.

 

I grew up watching him on the really wild show. Always thought he was a friendly big chap and a bit eccentric with that big long bald power mullet of a hair do. Now I wonder why his pet otter bit 2 fingers off? he either owed it a lot of money or he was trying to use it as a bowling ball.

 

Would he have got into Berghain though?

 

I'm sure his bald mullet would have put him in favour of Sven the head bouncer who himself sports a receeding mullet. Nutkins / Leibing back to back would be interesting.

 

he werent the best nutkins, man like squirrel was the best one

 

Fucking hell this thread turned dark.


My sympathies to the victims, report the bastard again and again.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if Squirrel Nutkin turned out to be a sex case too. Best just not to say anything.

 

He sure does sound like a wrong lord. Wonder if Terry is short for..Terrible Nutkins

 

Just stumbled across this thread about TV celebrity Terry Nutkins. I, too, once worked with Terry Nutkins, and can confirm that, although he could be very charming, he was also very devious. To my mind, he showed all the tendencies of a psychopath. As for his being a sexual predator, I can confirm that he made a pass at me (I was a male in my late teens), which I swiftly dealt with. It never happened again. The fact that he got away with this kind of behaviour for so long makes me think that he must have been protected by the powers that be. Many who worked with him disliked him intensely, and I couldn’t help but notice how few celebrities left tributes on his death. Although he became famous in animal conservation – otters, dolphins, etc - he demonstrated no compassion for animals. For him, they were just a means to further his career.

 

Pedo! I knew it all along.

 

how?

 

I think it's irony.

I hope it's irony.

 

Hi! I also worked at the dolphinarium from when I was 16 - 18 and am sad to say I was frequently used/abused by Terry as were most other female and possibly male employees. There was a weird culture of acceptance of his preditory behaviour, hard to believe in this current climate. We felt unable to refuse him , groomed by his attentions. To comply seemed the right thing to do. I was very young and very sheltered. I despise my younger self for not standing up for myself more and having more self respect. Only now I’m older do I see that he was the abuser who took advantage of pretty much everyone around him at the time.

I’m not sure what to do now. I know my self esteem and self respect was severely damaged by my experience at Woburn. I suspect many others feel the same as me. But would speaking out now do more harm than good. His family would be so hurt by the opening of this particular worm can.

 

Coming to terms with the truth is often painful. But perhaps less so, overall, than living with the dark suspicion that there are still many secrets.

Don't feel obliged to disclose anything you don't want to, but definitely don't base that decision on the idea that you're protecting others from things they already know, or suspect, happened.

 

I always reckoned he was a masochist, and deliberately had his tail chopped off.

 

I am so very sorry to hear that you too were abused by Terry. I was too.

Certainly at Woburn there were adults who both enabled Terry's disgusting abuses and who turned a blind eye. That is one of the most appalling things about the whole sorry mess, it was not just Terry operating alone, but a whole sub-culture of enablers who seemed to worship the ground he walked on and who were happy to encourage his activities. Those people seemed to think that it was entertaining to know that Terry was abusing vulnerable teenagers. While Terry died over 5 years ago, some of his enablers may still be alive, probably are and IMO they should be brought to justice.

At the very least the police need to understand the organisational and cultural dynamics that allowed a situation to arise where an adult male was openly and explicitly abusing minors while he was in a position of authority, encouraged by adults - including at least one female - who worked with him.

I think it takes a lot of courage to share your experience about the kind of abuse you suffered from Terry and you should hold you head high. What happened to you was not your fault. The fact that you are worried about Terry's family demonstrates that you are a kind, decent, caring person. I feel sorry for them too. It is not their fault that Terry was a predatory psychopath. However I feel much more sorry for all the teenagers that Terry used and abused with impunity.

Also Terry's family are living very comfortably on the back of all the money Terry managed to grab from Johnny Morris's family and via his various businesses selling dolphins to amusement parks and his TV career, the latter being a parody of Terry's real life as an animal hating, child abusing psychopath.

I would suggest that you take care of yourself as the first priority. Talk to friends, loved ones, family, get support and if and when you feel strong enough make that call to the police and help to put terry's enablers in jail.

 

Goggle "Terry Nutkins abuse" and this is the first result. Did Chris Packham have anything to say about his death?

 

I came here to post the same thing. While it’s not my business, or anyone’s, to tell an abused person what to do I’m fairly livid and astonished since coming across this thread yesterday that nobody seems to acknowledge this apart from Urban. It’s like a secret Savile all over again. There’s even hints as to people were in the know, by the lack of those coming forward to pay respects when the cunt did die.

The testimonies in this thread are nothing but believable, shaming and compelling. They undoubtedly point to ‘how many more were there?’, on top of the completely convincing condemnation of Nutkins himself. Reading how Nutkins was adopted by Gavin Maxwell, after joining him for a summer job ffs, was also a bizarre eye opener into the darker sides of what was going on in the times of my childhood.

I don’t know how you fix it, but it seems as much as a crime for this to go unacknowledged after his death as it was a crime for him to get away with things while he lived.

 

And the second hit is a blog that seems to have lifted parts of posts straight from here. Hmmm...?

 

Tributes listed here are fairly sparse:

Wildlife presenter Nutkins dies

 

The thread does seem to have taken an odd turn. Whilst coming forward may be difficult. If these new members are legit then I’d like to think others may follow. The fact this thread seems to be the only supporting evidence however does make me wonder if we just have the same person posting over and over in some weird smearing campaign.

Despite his death surely ed and the mods still have to protect against character assignations on here or u75 itself could face legal troubles or at least requests to shut this down sooner or later.

 

perhaps you could elaborate on which living person you think is being smeared

 

His Wiki entry is squeaky clean .....

Terry Nutkins - Wikipedia

 

from the sun 8/9/12


all the other papers carried similar tributes and as far as i can see nothing from either michaela strachan or chris packham.