Terrorists

[moono]

Particularly the helpless 'nubiles' with satchels. Biggest rewards for those.

 

[ninjacat]

Nijact: Perhaps, instead of reacting from you gut and tossing expletive laden ad hominems my way...you would instead ask me why I used that terminology.
If you bothered to look into it you mighty find that the term I used is standard military venacular. In fact, witten in a report the proper term is "legal kill." I suggest for future reference, you remove emotion as much as you can and deal with the subjects in a rational and detached way. Emotions have no place in mature debate.

And why should my initial (emotional) reaction to your [callous] words of a "good kill" change because it is displeasing to you? I understand your "vernacular" and that is why I find it callous. Go talk to the trees about what good debating skills are and don't lecture me on what I can or cannot say in a debate when you are free to describe the cold-blooded killing of a child as a "good kill"... my emotional response to such words is somehow redundant, don't you think, because that child can never be revived? You are the father of children and I am sure you know where I am coming from, though you might choose to ignore that.

 

[moono]

Her name was Iman al-Hams and Rachamim thinks her killing was 'good '.

 

[rachamim18]

Nino: All I would have to do, if I wanted to sound authoritative on Chomsky [or anyone else], is simply spend a few moments searching online. What would your challenge have proven? It is like asking someone to converse in a foreign language to prove their fluency. Unless you communicate in real time, it means nothing.

As for your fantasy of me, my photo is on Bluelight [Gallery] and all my relevant personal info was listed here , yesterday [as well as when i first started]. Why not be an adult and do the same? show us who you are, and tell us who you really are and offer proof as I did. You know, this is all utterly juvenile. You [and a couple of others] whould be ashamed of yourselves. I was comforted though to see you admonished by the moderator of the other forum as well as find that you antagonise all sorts of folks. I was thinking that you have a homoerotic obsession of me. The relief was welcome.

Panda: Sorry you have waited a year but I provided at least one link which you have acknowledged [while denigrating it at the same time]. Other than that, I won't be bothered with a subject that never had a thread and is more than a year old to boot. Sorry, but I can barely keep up with the regular nonsense as it is. Of course you could iniate a thread if you wanted. Perhaps on the clown's visit to Lebanon.

 

[nino_savatte]

Nino: All I would have to do, if I wanted to sound authoritative on Chomsky [or anyone else], is simply spend a few moments searching online. What would your challenge have proven? It is like asking someone to converse in a foreign language to prove their fluency. Unless you communicate in real time, it means nothing.

As for your fantasy of me, my photo is on Bluelight [Gallery] and all my relevant personal info was listed here , yesterday [as well as when i first started]. Why not be an adult and do the same? show us who you are, and tell us who you really are and offer proof as I did. You know, this is all utterly juvenile. You [and a couple of others] whould be ashamed of yourselves. I was comforted though to see you admonished by the moderator of the other forum as well as find that you antagonise all sorts of folks. I was thinking that you have a homoerotic obsession of me. The relief was welcome.

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You're projecting, rachmeister (as that bit about homoeroticism demonstrates). But then only a mind as arrogant as yours could come up with warped logic like that. You flatter yourself if you think that I "fantasise" about you, I have better things to do. If I speculated that you were a acne ridden prepubescent twerp, then that's because all I ever get from you is this nonsense...not to mention the backsliding and dishonesty that characterises your posts.

As for Chomsky, I think we've all concluded that you lied on that wee issue.

 

[ninjacat]

Her name was Iman al-Hams and Rachamim thinks her killing was 'good '.

Thank you Moono, I think Rachamim has forgotten his humanity. Iman was a child with a family, friends and her death so random, so cruel. It defies all sense, all logic, that a grown man with children of his own can refer to the killing as a "good kill", no matter how much he purports to be a rational human being. Where is the difference between his thinking and those humans who drove the Jews into the concentration camps and gas chambers? I can't see a sliver of daylight between the two.

 

[moono]

Where is the difference between his thinking and those humans who drove the Jews into the concentration camps and gas chambers? I can't see a sliver of daylight between the two.

It's a different breed of fascism, not the same. It's a proxy fascism.

 

[rachamim18]

Nino: I spent a lot fof time and effort trying to shut down this incessant sniping by providing a whole lot of person info. Instead of presistent whining, why not post your info? Real job, school, martial situation, home adress, job location , and photo [my photo by the way is posted in Bluelight]. Otherwise, you need to shut up.

Ninja: Again with the semantics. Listen, I am telling you in military terms that there isnothing illegal orunjust in the shooting. If I put a gun in your hand, put you in checkpoint position or obsdervation area after intensive tutoring you in what and what not to look for when evaluating situations, you are going to almost certainly do what they did. If they did not neutralise her, and she got a bit closer, and if her satchel had been wired...every soldier there could have died. Of course had it happened that way, it would probably not even have rated a thread in this forum.

The difference between me and the people who operated gas chambers is that I do not seek to kill, target, or even hurt an entire race. I only want convicted militants brought to justice. Bit pf a difference.

 

[rachamim18]

Duplicate, ergo deleted

 

[moono]

Rachamim;

If they did not neutralise her, and she got a bit closer, and if her satchel had been wired...every soldier there could have died.

'Neutralise' eh ? Nice.
That's not the way it happened, liarboy.

"In every country in this world, child killers are prosecuted and punished. In Israel, not only child killers are not punished, they are actually rewarded," Rizqa told Aljazeera.net.

He described the trial of the Druze soldier as "theatrical and absurd from the beginning to the end".

"The so-called court didn't discuss the killing itself and instead concentrated on secondary aspects of the murder, such as whether the killer misused his weapon or whether he violated firing instructions."

In the 2004 trial, the soldier was charged with misusing his weapon and seeking to obstruct an investigation, but not with murder or manslaughter.

On 5 October, 2004, the soldier, known as Captain R, reportedly shot Iman while she was on her way to school in Rafah at the southern edge of the Gaza Strip and then proceeded to fire about 20 bullets into her body to make sure she was dead.

The shooting was documented on video by an Israeli cameraman and screened on Israel's Channel 2 television. In that video, the soldiers identified the victim as a girl about 10 years old and said she was "scared to death".

Another soldier is heard saying "our forces are attacking her", and a lookout says "one of the positions has taken her down".

In the same video, Captain R is heard saying "we operated on her. Yes, it seems she has been hit". He later stated that he "verified" the killing and added: "Anyone that moves in the zone, even if it is a 3-year-old boy, should be killed."

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8391A64A-44D7-4C54-B57A-6E4BB38DD02A.htm

Israel has more than its fair share of arseholes.