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"It helps that much of our source material is really obscure. By far the most popular MP3 on our downloads page is Lollipop Man, a song we've comedically mislabelled as being a duet by Mariah Carey and Tom Waits. It's actually from a 1970s album of road safety material that nobody will recognise. Maybe Carey's people could sue, but it'd be tough to call."
http://bristlingbadger.blogspot.com/2006/03/copy-rites.html
 
The Orpahans compilation he brought out a couple of years ago "Brawlers, Bawlers and Bastards" is fantastic Long Way Home is one of my Desert Island Disks when Kirsty gives me a call. SwordfishTrombones is my favourite album and In the Neighbourhood always gets me blubbing after a couple of bottles of wine.
 
Cool. Will have a look. Ta.

He's sort of passed me by. Think I found his voice a little annoying. Worth looking into again it seems.
 
Tom Waits is pretty good but I prefer Bonnie Prince Billy any day. :cool:



Seems an odd comparison.


I mean, I like Waits and I love Will Oldham but I can't imagine using them in the same sentence together, unless that sentence began: "Will Oldham, unlike Tom Waits......."

:)

I guess they are both Male, singer-songwriters.....
 
Seems an odd comparison.


I mean, I like Waits and I love Will Oldham but I can't imagine using them in the same sentence together, unless that sentence began: "Will Oldham, unlike Tom Waits......."

:)

I guess they are both Male, singer-songwriters.....
But goldenecitrone's smiley has got shades, therefore making him cooler for listening to Will "Bonnie Prince Billy" Oldham (I used both his names in the same space. Do I get more cred points, like in the SIms?)
 
Seems an odd comparison.

I mean, I like Waits and I love Will Oldham but I can't imagine using them in the same sentence together, unless that sentence began: "Will Oldham, unlike Tom Waits......."

It's a personal thing. I didn't really like either of them at first, but they've grown on me over the years. And I still don't actually own any Waits but have got quite a few of Will Oldham's albums now. His words just appeal to me more for some reason. His bleakness seems more beautiful.
 
i have tried waits so many times, but the "i'm just a lonesome hobo, sat at the bar, singing da blues" thing just irritates me. he came from a really comfortable middle class background but to listen to him you'd think he'd traveled the 'ol carnivals, going from town to town. just something really irritatingly inauthentic about him.

Hold On is a Masterpiece though.
 
i have tried waits so many times, but the "i'm just a lonesome hobo, sat at the bar, singing da blues" thing just irritates me. he came from a really comfortable middle class background but to listen to him you'd think he'd traveled the 'ol carnivals, going from town to town. just something really irritatingly inauthentic about him.

Hold On is a Masterpiece though.
Yeh... he's got a few Tunes though.

Edit: maybe I find this one fine because he's very definitely playing a character role, rather than it being a fake persona ifyswim
 
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Yeh... he's got a few Tunes though.

Edit: maybe I find this one fine because he's very definitely playing a character role, rather than it being a fake persona ifyswim


He's always playing a character role. I've never understood people (Peel included) who don't see it as musical theatre and deride him for not being 'for real' enough.

Actually though, I think Pay Me is possibly his most straightforwardly moving song. It proper makes me cry every time I hear it.
 
If I could listen to him for more than thirty seconds, maybe I could form an opinion.
It sounds like he's taking the piss and getting away with it.
 
He's always playing a character role. I've never understood people (Peel included) who don't see it as musical theatre and deride him for not being 'for real' enough.

Actually though, I think Pay Me is possibly his most straightforwardly moving song. It proper makes me cry every time I hear it.
If a posh friend of mine started pretending his was from that old dust bowl, playing da blues before hitching that lonesome freight train outta here with the waitress from some dime store diner...id cringe. I do the same with waits. I think its that he chooses the same twee Americana cliches again and again when clearly hes just another middle class intellectual creative (nothing wrong with that).
 
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