Tell me about smart TVs

Discussion in 'computers, web and general tech' started by Mrs Miggins, Jul 22, 2018.

  1. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    I need a telly - I'm using my laptop at the moment but I need proper a proper telly at some point.

    What connections do I need?

    I have an internet connection and I have an old Sky dish on my roof and there is also cabling installed for Virgin Media.

    When I was at my dad's recently, he had Virgin and honestly there is fuck all on the proper TV that I want to watch that I can't get online so given all my TV watching is from online sources, is an internet connection all I need?

    What about Freeview, How does that work?
    Do smart TVs work via wifi?
    What are the best ones on the market right now?

  2. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    I'd only want to spend up to £500
  3. jontz01

    jontz01 taking refuge in the loft

    Have a look into chromecast... matey's always raving about it.
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  4. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident


    How's things in Blenheim??
  5. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

    I bought a nice Panasonic smart tv for about £300. You can plug an aerial leed in same as any other TV. But it also connects via wifi to access netflix, amazon video, iPlayer etc. Lots of apps come pre-loaded mine even has a dedicated Netflix button in the remote. Hope that helps.
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  6. High Voltage

    High Voltage In the top 97% of Urban's most interesting posters


    Exactly the same as you Mrs M and the same budget as well. Great minds and that

    The only added complexity I'd chuck in is we don't have, don't want and have no intention of getting a TV licence as we only watch streamed stuff and we have a limited broad band connection of around 11 meg
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  7. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident


    I don't have a normal TV aerial connection which forms a major part of my question. I need a setup that doesn't require that.
  8. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Do you have a decent Broadband connection? The smart telly will work on WiFi but if streaming anything it is best to hardwire the telly to the router

    I got a Samsung 4k snazzy thing from John Lewis with a 3 year warranty a while back which has been decent. At the time they were doing a free collection of old telly and installation of the new one (worth about £100) I think. From memory the telly was about £600 but it is a BIG screen and there are usually deals about.

    Almost never watch live telly. Did used to have Virgin but cancelled it as it was expensive/shit. The smart telly will have Freeview on it so on the rare occasion you want to watch the BBC that is there. Will also access Netflix, Amazon, Youtube, iPlayer and other streaming services.
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  9. High Voltage

    High Voltage In the top 97% of Urban's most interesting posters

    So, in effect, what I'm after is a big wall mounted laptop screen that I can access streaming site or its that what you use a Kodi box for
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  10. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    If someone could just tell me about Chromecast, I'd be very grateful as I am extremely bad at tech and reading things about tech on the internet tends to leave me confused rather than enlightened.
  11. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Thanks that's really helpful.

    I do have reasonable wifi but the planes flying over interfere with it and I can hard wire it through the router.
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  12. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

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  13. emanymton

    emanymton A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.

    Basically anything you can get on your laptop you should be able to get on the TV. It might be a pain if it doesn't have a TV specific app. But mine at least has a built in in web browser, but without a touch screen or keybord and mouse using it is a nightmare.

    To be honest I just use mine for Neflix and YouTube I've never bothered plugging it into the aerial socket.

    Edit - my broadband is one up from the cheapest EE offer and have never had any problems streaming to my TV.
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2018
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  14. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

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  15. Leafster

    Leafster From the FRow

    I bought a 4k Samsung from JL just like Badgers

    I'm very pleased with it overall. I haven't bothered hard wiring it to the router and haven't had any problems. It came with all the usual apps (iPlayer, All 4, My5, ITV Hub, Netflix, Youtube etc.) either pre-loaded or available to download. The built-in web browser (Tizen) is a bit shit though. I wouldn't rely on the web browser to access all online that you want. For instance, I watch a lot of the lower level tennis tournaments. I can access these via livestream on any PC for free but the Samsung browser won't play them. Similarly, I don't think that all apps are available on all TVs (even of the same brand). Again, there's a paid-for tennis streaming service called Tennis TV which is available as an app on some TVs but not apparently on my Samsung. I gather I can plug an Amazon TV stick into it which does support Tennis TV but I was hoping to keep the TV set up straight-forward.

    Check the apps of any TV you're looking at and maybe try one out to see if the online content direct from the web works with it.
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  16. purenarcotic

    purenarcotic Conveniently Pocket Sized

    Smart TVs have Freeview built in (actually most TVs do now) - I have read several articles and seen several reports that smart TVs aren’t that great as the apps update faster than the TV tech. So get the best quality TV you can for the price and get something like a Now TV box or fire stick for all your iPlayer / 4OD etc needs.

    I like to get my tech from John Lewis because of the extra guarantees you get.
  17. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    Most companies are much of a muchness but John Lewis have excellent customer service and warranty. For a new telly or kitchen appliance I would try to use them if money allows.

    Sony or Samsung would be my first choices. Again a bit of a premium price but you would like it to last 5 years plus really :hmm: most the brand's use a lot of the same parts inside so a cheaper one is not a massive difference.
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  18. mauvais

    mauvais change has become unavoidable

    You need a licence to watch iPlayer now.
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  19. Saul Goodman

    Saul Goodman It's all good, man

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  20. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    Hardwiring is always preferable, but we do all streaming via wireless to the PS4 and never have any issues, so it's not worth getting hung up over.
  21. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    It allows you to use your phone to do everything, you just plug the cheap chromcast box into the back of the TV and control it from there. If the app supports casting it works very well, but if it doesn't then you have to broadcast the whole screen, which is a bit of a pain if you want to use the phone at the same time.

    I think it's neat for the price, but find it much easier to access Netflix, Amazon and Iplayer via my PS4.
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  22. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    I have not got Chromecast here. Use the 'Smart View' for streaming porn stuff from my phone.

  23. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    I'm still using an old 50" plasma that's about as smart as brick. :D
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  24. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

    I don't think you need chromecast with a decent smart tv, they already have those apps and access to google app store, netflix, youtube, iplayer, spotify, tune-in etc.
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  25. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    What do you mean "if the app supports casting"?

    I will want to use my phone when the TV is on so perhaps this is not for me.
  26. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Ah I think I understand.

    Chromecast is something that allows you to use the apps on your phone but view them on the TV and will only work if the app on your phone will work like that? And you can have a dumb TV cos the chromecast box is what makes it work?

    Nah - I want a telly that does that on it's own.

    I don't currently have a TV at all so I want a whole solution rather than something to cobble on to existing equipment.
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  27. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    That's about right (although if the app supports it you can use the phone whilst it's playing)

    However if your buying new kit then that's probably a better solution. I worry that smart TV makers won't update apps, but it's not something you have to worry aboard for a few years and you can always add something else in future.
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  28. UnderAnOpenSky

    UnderAnOpenSky baseline neural therapy

    £500 will easily buy you a TV that does 4k and HDR which is also smart...
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  29. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Why would I need a Now TV box for iPlayer/4OD when I can get that on a smart TV?

    I get that smart TVs can be slower to update than the apps I might be using but I don't want any kind of subcription or anybody having to come round to install anything.

    The time may come when I want a pay subscription again but I really don't want all that at the moment.
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  30. Badgers

    Badgers Mr Big Shrimp!

    I would not bother with Now TV

    My Freeview channels in the telly have more than enough and most of it (like Now TV) is fucking shit.
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