Team GB football for 2012?

[Ich bin ein Mod]

What happens to all the Scottish and Irish players playing for GB?
It maybe their first International.

Dunno if that would apply to the Olympics, but surely it'd be similar to the situation with Czechoslovakia and the former USSR, with players who'd played for those sides choosing which "new" country to represent

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Dunno if that would apply to the Olympics, but surely it'd be similar to the situation with Czechoslovakia and the former USSR, with players who'd played for those sides choosing which "new" country to represent

Imagine the melee to get players to choose the "right" country!!!

 

[Harold Hill]

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btw to Harold, I think, if there are any young players out there who will be denied a place in the GB team because they're Scottish. Then maybe they could just play for Scotland?

Don't think it was me.

The way I see it, the Scottish FA shouldn't stand in the way of any player that wanted to play for a GB team at the Olympics because of their own (IMO) irrational fear.

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Don't think it was me.

The way I see it, the Scottish FA shouldn't stand in the way of any player that wanted to play for a GB team at the Olympics because of their own (IMO) irrational fear.

I don't think the Scottish FA are standing in the way of anyone.
They are just not supporting the idea. I might add that most players are with them on this.

 

[Red Faction]

im against the idea
anything that makes it easier for scotland + wales to lost their right to compete on their own

in the winter olympics in salt lake city
didnt alan baxter have to peroxide off the saltire he'd dyed into his hair?
just goes to show what contempt they have for the home nations as a group

anyway

in 2012 there will be plenty of young welsh, scottish and english under-23s who will be able to show off their talent representing their own nations

and good for them too

the only one of the home nations i object to is northern ireland
but thats an arugment for a different thread
(probably in p+p)


ill correct dilzy here:

I can't think of any reason why any sane Scot would choose to stand on a winners podium to the strains of the BNP anthem that is God save the queen. With it's anti Scots racist verse. (the 3rd one I think)

somefans sing it every week at their local club games

ive been to an international rugby match at twickenham and have my fellow irishmen sing along to that anthem- but not to their own

some genuinely feel british

but then you could argue that they're afraid of the erosion of their culture and this is how they choose to re-inforce it

but again this is another argument for P+P

 

[Dilzybhoy]

Thats why I said "any sane Scot"

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

Don't think it was me.

The way I see it, the Scottish FA shouldn't stand in the way of any player that wanted to play for a GB team at the Olympics because of their own (IMO) irrational fear.

Irrational you say?

two calls for home nations to be scrapped

 

[Harold Hill]

Irrational you say?

two calls for home nations to be scrapped

The fact he went public saying this on the word of someone else with no actual proof would make me suspect that he was scaremongering. Why say nothing till now?

I seriously doubt nobody in the English FA wouldn't have leaked this to the press by now either.

 

[Harold Hill]

Dilzybhoy re GSTQ - the verse you're thinking of is the sixth.

Don't mean to be pedantic but where is the racism in 'Rebellious Scots to crush'?

 

[Batboy]

I voted alright but leave the scots out of it, which we should cos there current players are shit!

 

[Yossarian]

I reckon the Northern Irish players should be playing on the *Irish* Olympic football team anyway, if there's one competing, or at the very least have the right to choose who they play for.

 

[steeplejack]

I voted alright but leave the scots out of it, which we should cos there current players are shit!

obviously that's really relevant to who's going to be playing U-23 football in 7 years time....you arse.

 

[starfish]

I voted alright but leave the scots out of it, which we should cos there current players are shit!

I have a feeling that some of the English have not grasped the fact that it is an Under 23 tournament (with 3 over age players) & it will be held in 2012, 7 years from now.

 

[steeplejack]

something like this, you mean?

it will be the english only anyway the jocks n taffs arent good enuf no decent players maybe we could get maik taylor in goals but english boys otherwise LOL11111

 

[Batboy]

obviously that's really relevant to who's going to be playing U-23 football in 7 years time....you arse.

Hey I'm not a gooner! Do you think Scottish footballers will be good in 7 years time? Serious question as i would suggest that Scottish homegrown talent is very thin on the ground at the moment.


And also seriously I do beleive we should have a GB football Team in the olympics either that or have seperate olympic teams/competitors all round.

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

i would suggest that Scottish homegrown talent is very thin on the ground at the moment.

Hahahaha! Ahahahahahaha! Heeheehahahaha! <continues>

 

[Red Faction]

Do you think Scottish footballers will be good in 7 years time? Serious question as i would suggest that Scottish homegrown talent is very thin on the ground at the moment.

so what you're saying is
'i dont know anything about scottish football, but ill go along with what ive heard other people say: that the SPL is shit and so all scottish players are shit too. also in 7 years time scottish footballers will still be shit, if not shitter'

i agree, you havent a fucking clue

 

[steeplejack]

^^what they said. Another twat sounding off about Scottish football despite knowing absolutely nothing about it.

 

[STFC]

I voted Yes. We compete in the Olympics under the GB banner for every other event, so why not the football? It's not like it's the World Cup or anything, it's only the Olympics after all. I'm sure any young player would be as proud to pull on a GB jersey as all the other Olympians have been over the years, despite whatever the likes of Dilzybhoy says in his anti-British rantings.

Let's face it, it could be the only chance any Welsh, Scots or Northern Irish players ever get to play on the world stage.

 

[steeplejack]

For God's sake. How many times?

The Scottish FA, and in all probability the Welsh FA, are not interested in taking part in a "British" football team, in the Olympics, or anywhere else. If the English and Northern Irish are interested, then that's up to them. As a result, no Scottish player will be entered for the team, as no-one up here gives two shits about Olympic football.

Awaits inevitable moron to come along and say that none of the current Scottish team are good enough, anyway....

 

[Yossarian]

I guess under the "the bigger the font, the righter you are" rule that's the discussion closed then...

 

[steeplejack]

Not that. I'm just pissed off that people can't/won't grasp the obvious points re: our non-participation in this team, despite it being patiently explained many times by different posters....

Nothing to do with being 'right'

 

[STFC]

For God's sake. How many times?

The Scottish FA, and in all probability the Welsh FA, are not interested in taking part in a "British" football team, in the Olympics, or anywhere else. If the English and Northern Irish are interested, then that's up to them. As a result, no Scottish player will be entered for the team, as no-one up here gives two shits about Olympic football.

Awaits inevitable moron to come along and say that none of the current Scottish team are good enough, anyway....

It's a shame really that the Scottish FA would deny their young players the opportunity to be an Olympian. It seems that you speak for every Scot, as you say "no-one up here gives two shits about Olympic football". So does anyone up there give two shits about the Oympics at all?

 

[steeplejack]

I've no idea. I'm sure plenty of folk do, I've never met anyone that cares about the Olympics though. I've never claimed to speak on behalf of all Scots, either. But watching both club and international football on a weekly basis up here gives me some insight into how the majority of football fans might think.

Re: your point about the SFA 'denying' younger players the 'opportunity' to become an Olympian, the point is that young players up here can see the bigger picture.

FIFA may seize on Scots participation in a GB Olympic team to end the independent status of the four home nations, in the future and insist on a GB team in the Euros and World Cup. It's not an issue under Blatter (much against his 'better judgement', he's been forced to back down on this one) but I confidently predict future administrators will seek to make an issue of it. I can categorically state that no one in Scotland, barring a few Rangers die-hards, would support such a team, and indeed would be actively hostile to it. I imagine most proper England fans would be, too.

Risk the independent future of the Scottish team for some diddy youth tournament no one will remember a month after it's finished? No thanks.

 

[STFC]

I've no idea. I'm sure plenty of folk do, I've never met anyone that cares about the Olympics though. I've never claimed to speak on behalf of all Scots, either. But watching both club and international football on a weekly basis up here gives me some insight into how the majority of football fans might think.

Re: your point about the SFA 'denying' younger players the 'opportunity' to become an Olympian, the point is that young players up here can see the bigger picture.

FIFA may seize on Scots participation in a GB Olympic team to end the independent status of the four home nations, in the future and insist on a GB team in the Euros and World Cup. It's not an issue under Blatter (much against his 'better judgement', he's been forced to back down on this one) but I confidently predict future administrators will seek to make an issue of it. I can categorically state that no one in Scotland, barring a few Rangers die-hards, would support such a team, and indeed would be actively hostile to it. I imagine most proper England fans would be, too.

Risk the independent future of the Scottish team for some diddy youth tournament no one will remember a month after it's finished? No thanks.

Seems slightly paranoid to me. I admit that most "proper" England fans probably wouldn't actively support it, but how many proper football fans are that bothered about the Olympics anyway. The Olympics is different to other sporting events, and English people, if they're at all interested, don't have any problem supporting the GB team, no matter where the participants are from. It just seems to me that young British footballers should be afforded the same opportunity as the track & field athletes, swimmers, boxers etc. of competing in the Olympics. We're going to enter a "GB" team regardless, so why not allow them to be a part of it?

 

[zoltan]

Its all gerrymandering horse trading shite. London gets the olympics, ergo England pays for the bloated fuckin farce. Englands problem, England expense, just leave the rest us us out of it & dont start this blackmail shite to try to get the resy of this island interested in your overpriced little beano.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Seems slightly paranoid to me. I admit that most "proper" England fans probably wouldn't actively support it, but how many proper football fans are that bothered about the Olympics anyway. The Olympics is different to other sporting events, and English people, if they're at all interested, don't have any problem supporting the GB team, no matter where the participants are from. It just seems to me that young British footballers should be afforded the same opportunity as the track & field athletes, swimmers, boxers etc. of competing in the Olympics. We're going to enter a "GB" team regardless, so why not allow them to be a part of it?

It's not really the 'same' opportunity though is it. For the people in those other sports the Olympics is the pinnacle of their careers, and that obviously isn't true of football. The Olympic football tournament should just be ditched altogether, it's a waste of time.

 

[steeplejack]

I'd suggest you do some reading around the near-continual administartiove campaigns for a GB team by FIFA administartors before dismissing it as Scots paranoia. Whether you think it paranoid or not, I've yet to meet a single Scottish fan who thinks the SFA are wrong on this. And the SFA are generally held to be wrong on just about everything.

I've also yet to read of a single young player calling for them to be allowed to participate and protesting their exclusion.

You're entitled to your views, but those of an England based Swindon & Lazio fan will cut little ice with the SFA. Just as I'd expect the views of a Scots based Montrose & Trieste fan to have zero impact on the thinking of the English FA.

England & probably NI are going ahead with it. Why can't you be happy with that?

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I'd suggest you do some reading around the near-continual administartiove campaigns for a GB team by FIFA administartors before dismissing it as Scots paranoia. Whether you think it paranoid or not, I've yet to meet a single Scottish fan who thinks the SFA are wrong on this. And the SFA are generally held to be wrong on just about everything.

I've also yet to read of a single young player calling for them to be allowed to participate and protesting their exclusion.

You're entitled to your views, but those of an England based Swindon & Lazio fan will cut little ice with the SFA. Just as I'd expect the views of a Scots based Montrose & Trieste fan to have zero impact on the thinking of the English FA.

England & probably NI are going ahead with it. Why can't you be happy with that?

What if somebody with dual eligibility (say England/ Scotland) played for the GB team and later decided he wanted to play for Scotland (having never played for England, obviously). At the time I can't see the SFA would be able to tell him not to play, would you have him banned for future Scotland games?

 

[steeplejack]

*shrugs*

No idea!