Teacher jabbed my son in the chest and hurt him

[DRINK?]

I've already made provision in the OP for the fact that things are rarely as clear cut as made out by a 9 yr old

and its your call though don't be making a mountain out of a molehill

 

[Vintage Paw]

Maybe I should add a poll becasue it would be interesting to see the split of opinion between parents and non-parents in this particular case.

I don't think that's got anything to do with it.

I'm not a parent and I'd go to the head.

 

[Thora]

I don't think that's got anything to do with it.

I'm not a parent and I'd go to the head.

Me too.

I don't think it's acceptable to poke children or push them around - especially not primary school age! I wouldn't accept anyone treating me like that, so why should it be ok to treat a child like that?

 

[tarannau]

I disagree. Maybe if that's the kind of thing you're used to then it wouldn't bother you.

He injured his knee playing rugby a few weeks back and she shouted at him for limping. She got right in his face again and shouted 'There's always something wrong with you!!' She's got problems.

Christ. Is that it? Hate to point it out, but this is rugby. Harsh coaches and pisstaking are the order of the day. My coaches tended to go by nicknames like 'wanker', 'pukemaker' and the like - hell I've even warmed to then now and what they helped you achieve. It's a tough game - someone yelling at you sarcastically 'is there something fucking wrong with your foot' (my main coaches usual refrain after I muffed yet aniother kick) is the least of your worries

It's clear that you think she's got problems whatever we say. Which may be the case, but you seem to be over-egging the pudding based on some fairly minor contact incident so far. Why go through the pretence of asking us what we think?

 

[madzone]

I don't think that's got anything to do with it.

I just think it would be intersting to find out how many of the people saying I'm making a mountain out of a molehill have kids and what age they are. I'd be less likely to be pissed off about it if it was the middle boy tbh.

I'm not a parent and I'd go to the head.

Thanks

 

[madzone]

Christ. Is that it? Hate to point it out, but this is rugby. Harsh coaches and pisstaking are the order of the day. My coaches tended to go by nicknames like 'wanker', 'pukemaker' and the like - hell I've even warmed to then now and what they helped you achieve. It's a tough game - someone yelling at you sarcastically 'is there something fucking wrong with your foot' (my main coaches usual refrain after I muffed yet aniother kick) is the least of your worries

It's clear that you think she's got problems whatever we say. Which may be the case, but you seem to be over-egging the pudding based on some fairly minor contact incident so far. Why go through the pretence of asking us what we think?

What has the rugby coach got to do with any of it?

 

[moomoo]

I've suggested going to the Head purely because she may already have had reports about this teacher and is possibly already 'keeping an eye on her'. Plus, it doesn't sound as if the teacher is particularly approachable.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Christ. Is that it? Hate to point it out, but this is rugby. Harsh coaches and pisstaking are the order of the day. My coaches tended to go by nicknames like 'wanker', 'pukemaker' and the like - hell I've even warmed to then now and what they helped you achieve. It's a tough game - someone yelling at you sarcastically 'is there something fucking wrong with your foot' (my main coaches usual refrain after I muffed yet aniother kick) is the least of your worries

It's clear that you think she's got problems whatever we say. Which may be the case, but you seem to be over-egging the pudding based on some fairly minor contact incident so far. Why go through the pretence of asking us what we think?

It's a tiny primary school though - not exactly somewhere that's training him up to be a prof. rugby player. He's a kid. In this instance, his mother's instincts should be respected. What are we all going on? A handful of events Madz has told us about. We haven't been in a room with that teacher. We haven't listened to her son talk about her. Madz will do what she thinks is right, which is all she can do. If that isn't what you think is right, well so what?

 

[_angel_]

Since you're already going to see the head teacher, perhaps a quiet word about this with them. Done calmly! Even though I'd be fuming on the inside I'd like to think I'd be calm outwardly.

 

[Thora]

Christ. Is that it? Hate to point it out, but this is rugby. Harsh coaches and pisstaking are the order of the day. My coaches tended to go by nicknames like 'wanker', 'pukemaker' and the like - hell I've even warmed to then now and what they helped you achieve. It's a tough game - someone yelling at you sarcastically 'is there something fucking wrong with your foot' (my main coaches usual refrain after I muffed yet aniother kick) is the least of your worries

It's clear that you think she's got problems whatever we say. Which may be the case, but you seem to be over-egging the pudding based on some fairly minor contact incident so far. Why go through the pretence of asking us what we think?

You what He's a little boy and she's a primary school teacher.

 

[tarannau]

What has the rugby coach got to do with any of it?

Sorry. I misread that she was coaching rugby, rather than dealing with the aftermath of a rugby injury.My fault

Still, at least sport allowed us to get even with our PE teachers once in while. I once put our hated supply PE teacher on crutches for months after he invited us to tackle him - shame that, although it guaranteed me kudos for years tyo come.

As I say, I think you're in danger of being overly protective. But there again I went to tougher schools, even primaries that used a measure of corporal punishment. PE teachers always were the worst offener too.

 

[Rollem]

Christ. Is that it? Hate to point it out, but this is rugby. Harsh coaches and pisstaking are the order of the day. My coaches tended to go by nicknames like 'wanker', 'pukemaker' and the like - hell I've even warmed to then now and what they helped you achieve. It's a tough game - someone yelling at you sarcastically 'is there something fucking wrong with your foot' (my main coaches usual refrain after I muffed yet aniother kick) is the least of your worries

It's clear that you think she's got problems whatever we say. Which may be the case, but you seem to be over-egging the pudding based on some fairly minor contact incident so far. Why go through the pretence of asking us what we think?

that bullshit tarannau

rugby coaches get special priviligies for being cunts to kids then do they?

i'm all for giving teachers the benefits of the doubt, but they DO NO lay a finger on madge, and they certainly dont bully her.

else her dad will break them....

 

[kalidarkone]

It sounds as if your son is being bullied by his teacher - I'd go to the head. I am also pretty sure that most teachers especially primary school teachers are very careful about physical contact with kids in order to reduce any possibility of false allegations etc.

I can understand a coach shouting at older kids playing rugby- but saying that to a 9 year old when he has hurt himselfMy boy has played rugby since age 8 and none of the big burly male coaches ever treated anyone like that.

 

[foo]

Maybe I should add a poll becasue it would be interesting to see the split of opinion between parents and non-parents in this particular case.

i think it's more - those who agree with adults being allowed to physically punish/threaten kids, and those who don't.

i'm on the don't side surprisingly.

 

[madzone]

Sorry. I misread that she was coaching rugby, rather than dealing with the aftermath of a rugby injury.My fault

Still, at least sport allowed us to get even with our PE teachers once in while. I once put our hated supply PE teacher on crutches for months after he invited us to tackle him - shame that, although it guaranteed me kudos for years tyo come.

As I say, I think you're in danger of being overly protective. But there again I went to tougher schools, even primaries that used a measure of corporal punishment. PE teachers always were the worst offener too.

She's not a PE teacher, she's the form tutor

 

[madzone]

It sounds as if your son is being bullied by his teacher - I'd go to the head. I am also pretty sure that most teachers especially primary school teachers are very careful about physical contact with kids in order to reduce any possibility of false allegations etc.

I can understand a coach shouting at older kids playing rugby- but saying that to a 9 year old when he has hurt himselfMy boy has played rugby since age 8 and none of the big burly male coaches ever treated anyone like that.

The coaches are ace actually - they wouldn't dream of shoutng at them at that age. He plays for the town team and that's where he hurt himself (enough to need a few weeks of physio) but when he was limping in school she shouted at him

 

[selamlar]

I'm not a parent and I'd go to the head.

And a third one over here.

 

[selamlar]

Harsh coaches and pisstaking are the order of the day. My coaches tended to go by nicknames like 'wanker', 'pukemaker' and the like - hell I've even warmed to then now and what they helped you achieve. It's a tough game - someone yelling at you sarcastically 'is there something fucking wrong with your foot' (my main coaches usual refrain after I muffed yet aniother kick) is the least of your worries

<derail>
You see, THAT is why I hate P.E. teachers. Bunch of bullying fuckwits. (He says, generalising wildly. Although I have never met a nice P.E. teacher)

What would be the reaction if your english teacher called you a wanker because you didn't like Shakespeare?

 

[tarannau]

i think it's more - those who agree with adults being allowed to physically punish/threaten kids, and those who don't.

i'm on the don't side surprisingly.

To be honest I'm not sure if I agree with corporal punishment in schools, but I also don't really believe that 'prodding' someone is equal to punishing or threatening them either, particularly in the context of a primary school class.

I'd be more worried about how competent this woman is - the violence/aggression issue could be more than a little overinflated.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I wouldn't go to the head over jabbing in the chest, I'd have a talk with the teacher first, the kid could be exaggerating it.

 

[tarannau]

<derail>
You see, THAT is why I hate P.E. teachers. Bunch of bullying fuckwits. (He says, generalising wildly. Although I have never met a nice P.E. teacher)

What would be the reaction if your english teacher called you a wanker because you didn't like Shakespeare?

Thing is though, while it often sucked at the time, I've got a lot of respect for many of those coaches. I still see the 'wanker' occasionally - it's his hard work that allowed our team to achieve so much to a large extent, the way he pushed us and gace us toughness. I think of those times fondly, and with pride now.

I'm still more scarred by my scary handwriting and science teacher at primary school if I'm honest. She was horrible, undermining and snide - her words and actions cut more than a jabbing finger ever could.

 

[moomoo]

i'm all for giving teachers the benefits of the doubt, but they DO NO lay a finger on madge, and they certainly dont bully her.

else her dad will break them....

 

[Xanadu]

Cut all her fingers off. Then she won't be able to poke him anymore

 

[foo]

at school kids are taught bullying and violence is wrong. therefore, teachers have to uphold that with their own behaviour imo. it really is that simple for me.

 

[_angel_]

<derail>
You see, THAT is why I hate P.E. teachers. Bunch of bullying fuckwits. (He says, generalising wildly. Although I have never met a nice P.E. teacher)

What would be the reaction if your english teacher called you a wanker because you didn't like Shakespeare?

Quite. Does seem to be that PE teachers are somehow allowed to humiliate the less good students in a way that would be totally unacceptable in an academic subject. *Memories of being last to be picked for teams every single time* would they have let all us top set maths kids humiliate the bottom sets/ remedial maths groups in a public maths test?? No!

Sorry for derail anyway.

 

[kalidarkone]

Actually even with out the jabbing business I would be saying something just because my kid was coming to me upset about the way the teacher was talking to him- knowing my kid, if he was upset enough to tell me about it I would be asking the teacher what is going on.

 

[madzone]

To be honest I'm not sure if I agree with corporal punishment in schools, but I also don't really believe that 'prodding' someone is equal to punishing or threatening them either, particularly in the context of a primary school class.

I'd be more worried about how competent this woman is - the violence/aggression issue could be more than a little overinflated.

She was pretty aggressive to me yesterday

 

[madzone]

Ok - question for the people who think what the teacher has done is acceptable. If your boss came up to you today and started jabbing you in the chest becasue you'd forgotten to do something would that be acceptable? What would you do?

 

[pogofish]

But the other side of the coin is that if she is routinely losing control to the point of having to be physical then maybe she needs more support in the classroom or some other kind of help. If the head is any good she'll go down that route first hopefully

Yes. An informal approach to the head or other members of senior staff is more likely to get her this support.

 

[foo]

Ok - question for the people who think what the teacher has done is acceptable. If your boss came up to you today and started jabbing you in the chest becasue you'd forgotten to do something would that be acceptable? What would you do?

tut, when will you learn madz. your son is a child.

we don't give mere children the respect we demand for ourselves! that would be madness!