tbaldwins manifesto

[tbaldwin]

sorry balders for not commenting earlier been absorbed in other matters!

ok .. bit liberal for me!! i was expecting a ban on immigration but i am impressed with the NLS though BIffs idea is good too. I have a populist manifesto in genesis that i believe will be more popular than yours though maybe not on U75!! We should both stand in MK!

Still looking forwards to reading your manifesto durruti! And what about butchers? Be good if he could get a manifesto together?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

1 Cut Income Tax for lower paid...Starting rate of 10% on first £10,000 of somebodys wages. 20% on anything over £20,000. 30% on anything over £30,000. 40% on anything over £40,000. 50% on anything over £50,000.
60% on anything over £60,000.

2 Renationalise the public transport system.
Cut fares and increase capacity.

3 Introduce a maximum wage in the Public and Voluntary sector £70,000.
( For a time limited period doctors would have to be exempt.

4 50% super tax on all advertising.

5 Increase road taxes and petrol.

6 Replace the House of Lords with a second chamber diorectly elected by proportional representation.

7 Stop the recruitment of skilled workers from poorer nations unless companies pay reparations to those nations.

8 Support International Labour rules to ensure that multinationals are obliged to improve the wages and conditions of workers in poorer countries.

9 Bring in a National Labour Scheme. 50% of people presently languishing in UK prison cells would instead be asked if they would prefer to work.
Young unemployed people and those who come in early contact with the Criminal justice system would also be obliged to become part of the NLS..

10 Improve food in schools and hospitals.

11 Referendum of privatising the monarchy.

12 Referendum on Capital punishment.

13 Reform of the Benefits system increasing benefits that dont stop people from working and allowing people on JSA,IB etc to gradually move into work without immediately losing benefits.

14 Increasing the minimum wage for all larger companies who employ over 100 people.

15 Shoot 100 top celebrities voted for by the great british public.

1 - 30% @ £40k, 40% @ 60k, 50%@100k & 60%@250k
2 - Tick
3 - Have issues with, but would want to have some mechanism to stop the impression of the "closed shop" of senior local government officials on high salaries, and ditto with chief execs of agencies.
4 - Tick
5 - Once decent, affordable and accessible alternatives are in place, Tick
6 - Or an independent commission to appoint experts in various fields (law, public administration, academia, business, community service, voluntary work, trade unions, medicine, science etc) to the upper house, on the grounds that there needs to be a body to scrutinise legislation that is not subject to party political pressures. At the same time, there need to be further safeguards to ensure they cannot "block" manifesto commitments. Otherwise, reform the Commons voting system so that there are no "wasted" votes - i.e. STV.
7 - Would need to select the countries concerned.
8 - Tick - "Smiley Face"
9 - Tick "Smiley Face"
10 - Tick "Smiley Face"
11 - Tick but take away all of their powers, land holdings and other stuff that belongs to the people.
12 - Cross
13 - Tick "Smiley Face"
14 - Tick "Smiley Face"
15 - Can't we just have a tax on those defined in secondary legislation as "non-productive non-entities"?

 

[Prince Rhyus]

16 Tougher Punishments for all anti social criminals.

17 Major House building programme and knock down more shit housing.

18 Limit on amount of properties that any one person can own.

19 Increase inheritance tax to 50% on all estates of over £500,000

20 Replace the unelected Judiciary with Judges directly elected by people in the areas that they serve.


What do people think?

Tick to all

 

[Rod Sleeves]

1 Cut Income Tax for lower paid...Starting rate of 10% on first £10,000 of somebodys wages. 20% on anything over £20,000. 30% on anything over £30,000. 40% on anything over £40,000. 50% on anything over £50,000.
60% on anything over £60,000.

2 Renationalise the public transport system.
Cut fares and increase capacity.

3 Introduce a maximum wage in the Public and Voluntary sector £70,000.
( For a time limited period doctors would have to be exempt.

4 50% super tax on all advertising.

5 Increase road taxes and petrol.

6 Replace the House of Lords with a second chamber diorectly elected by proportional representation.

7 Stop the recruitment of skilled workers from poorer nations unless companies pay reparations to those nations.

8 Support International Labour rules to ensure that multinationals are obliged to improve the wages and conditions of workers in poorer countries.

9 Bring in a National Labour Scheme. 50% of people presently languishing in UK prison cells would instead be asked if they would prefer to work.
Young unemployed people and those who come in early contact with the Criminal justice system would also be obliged to become part of the NLS..

10 Improve food in schools and hospitals.

11 Referendum of privatising the monarchy.

12 Referendum on Capital punishment.

13 Reform of the Benefits system increasing benefits that dont stop people from working and allowing people on JSA,IB etc to gradually move into work without immediately losing benefits.

14 Increasing the minimum wage for all larger companies who employ over 100 people.

15 Shoot 100 top celebrities voted for by the great british public.

I would agree with all that, except I'm not sure what privatising the monarchy actually means, plus I wouldn't have a referendum on the subject, the whole point of a monarchy is you don't get to vote, so I'd just get rid.

So you'd get my vote but critically.

 

[tbaldwin]

I would agree with all that, except I'm not sure what privatising the monarchy actually means, plus I wouldn't have a referendum on the subject, the whole point of a monarchy is you don't get to vote, so I'd just get rid.

So you'd get my vote but critically.

I think you should have a referendum on the monarchy. The issue needs to be debated and understood. Just getting rid of the monarchy would not be a good idea IMV. Democracy is important i dont think that Socialists should be in the business of just imposing their ideas. I think we should be prepared to argue the case for what we believe in.

 

[brasicritique]

National labour scheme FYI browns already beaten you to it balders and i have to say your manifesto is rather conservative

 

[tbaldwin]

National labour scheme FYI browns already beaten you to it balders and i have to say your manifesto is rather conservative

Depends what you mean by conservative? Cant actually see myself being appointed by cameron, just yet.
I think the manifesto though would be dismissed as conservative by most of the all or nothing brigade on urban. But there are plenty of more open minded people on here who want to see gradual change.

 

[brasicritique]

I have been a tad uncharitable. IMO nothing short of everyone in the world being put on a fourday week will save the planet from pending environmental collapse. Not sure selling cannabis at the post office is a good idea given the amount of OAPS who use it , there would not be any cannabis left for anyone else!!

 

[trevhagl]

16 Tougher Punishments for all anti social criminals.

17 Major House building programme and knock down more shit housing.

18 Limit on amount of properties that any one person can own.

19 Increase inheritance tax to 50% on all estates of over £500,000

20 Replace the unelected Judiciary with Judges directly elected by people in the areas that they serve.


What do people think?

I actually think 2/3rds of this is spot on, which is surprising considering we used to argue like fuck a few months ago....

 

[tbaldwin]

I actually think 2/3rds of this is spot on, which is surprising considering we used to argue like fuck a few months ago....

I guess that doing a whole manifesto means people have to look at things they might agree with and disagree with. When i first came on urban75 some people thought i was some kind of a fascist when i disagreed with them on issues like crime and immigration.
And then some people thought i was some kind of blairite!!! When i disagreed with them about the Labour party.
Its easy for people to get the wrong end of the stick when they only see part of the picture. Thats why its no bad thing to do a manifesto i wish other people would too.

 

[Rod Sleeves]

I think you should have a referendum on the monarchy. The issue needs to be debated and understood. Just getting rid of the monarchy would not be a good idea IMV. Democracy is important i dont think that Socialists should be in the business of just imposing their ideas. I think we should be prepared to argue the case for what we believe in.

Aye, well I'm not too bothered, the existence of the monarchy one way or the other is not a priority.

I did just notice your proposal to increase fuel tax - nah it should be lowered if anything, instead build on the existing taxes for uneconmical cars, while recognising that older cars are actually less polluting than new given that the vast majority of pollution created by a car is when it is built.

People should get tax breaks for keeping old things running as long as possible not for recyling.

Also bottle recycling should be scraped and replaced with bottle reuse - less profit but also less energy used in reuse.

Also cut down on CCTV unless approved by a local referendum.

 

[kyser_soze]

1 Cut Income Tax for lower paid...Starting rate of 10% on first £10,000 of somebodys wages. 20% on anything over £20,000. 30% on anything over £30,000. 40% on anything over £40,000. 50% on anything over £50,000.
60% on anything over £60,000.

2 Renationalise the public transport system.
Cut fares and increase capacity.

3 Introduce a maximum wage in the Public and Voluntary sector £70,000.
( For a time limited period doctors would have to be exempt.

4 50% super tax on all advertising.

5 Increase road taxes and petrol.

6 Replace the House of Lords with a second chamber diorectly elected by proportional representation.

7 Stop the recruitment of skilled workers from poorer nations unless companies pay reparations to those nations.

8 Support International Labour rules to ensure that multinationals are obliged to improve the wages and conditions of workers in poorer countries.

9 Bring in a National Labour Scheme. 50% of people presently languishing in UK prison cells would instead be asked if they would prefer to work.
Young unemployed people and those who come in early contact with the Criminal justice system would also be obliged to become part of the NLS..

10 Improve food in schools and hospitals.

11 Referendum of privatising the monarchy.

12 Referendum on Capital punishment.

13 Reform of the Benefits system increasing benefits that dont stop people from working and allowing people on JSA,IB etc to gradually move into work without immediately losing benefits.

14 Increasing the minimum wage for all larger companies who employ over 100 people.

15 Shoot 100 top celebrities voted for by the great british public.

16 Tougher Punishments for all anti social criminals.

17 Major House building programme and knock down more shit housing.

18 Limit on amount of properties that any one person can own.

19 Increase inheritance tax to 50% on all estates of over £500,000

20 Replace the unelected Judiciary with Judges directly elected by people in the areas that they serve.

21 Legalise Cannabis but only allowed to be sold in the renationalised post offices.

22 Cut Charitable Status to private schools.

23 End any subsidy for people from private schools in the UK university system.

24 Renationalise energy and telecoms.

25 Cut the workking week and increase the minimum wage.

1 - 30% @ £40k, 40% @ 60k, 50%@100k & 60%@250k
Agree with Rhyus. I'd also start looking at ways to simplify the tax system so that CGT, share ownership, interest on savings, realised assets etc all comes under 'income' in one big tax and close as many loopholes in the grey areas of corporate taxation as well.
2. Yup
3. Rather than introduce a maximum wage, introduce local performance monitoring and performance management boards consisting of lay and expert persons, who at the end of each year get to say how much senoir council officials earn. I'd also add to this that any private sector company that tenders for PS business has to do so under the aegis of an ECT, and that any PS work they do is non-profit and that all their PS work is openly and transparently accounted for, and subject again to a local performance monitoring service.
4. Do you mean increase VAT on advertising? Could work, could also drive what remains of the local press into bankruptcy.
5. I'd go further and with exceptions (e.g. disabled and elderly drivers in rural areas), introduce national road pricing. I'd also look to encourage car sharing via those hourly hire companies
6. Reform the entire electoral system, replace it all with STV. HoL becomes a 'Senate' with longer sitting terms and more oversight/committee powers. Possibly establish it as a legislative review function - i.e. it gets to scrutinise implemented policy and see if it's worked, where it's gone wrong, where it's been good etc
7. Forbid companies from actively recruiting from overseas. If a skilled worker wants to come here and work off their own back I'm not going to stop them. Besides, you got any plans for replacing 1/3 of the NHSs clinical workforce in a few years if it can't draw from the local employment pool?
8. Yup
9. Nope, altho I can see a couple of ways it could be tweaked to help rehabilitation. Would like to see the benefit system reformed to 'workers wage' in a single payment, doing away with all the various different benefits; also not penalising people for volountary work
10. I guess
11. Do you mean make the monarchy into something like the Swedish/Dutch/Spanish models, where they have no real constitutional role? I'd also extend this to looking to divest the crown of all of it's property holdings...
12. NO
13. See #9
14. Bizarrely I was thinking about this on the way into work this morning, and I can see how it could help, but generally I reckon nah
15. Funny, but no.
16. Yeah, probably agree with this for rapist, pederasts, wife beaters etc
17. needs a lot of work. I would argue that if you are going to do this, state tenants need to have some kind of 'We won't fuck the place up and leave shit everywhere when we leave' clauses about getting future housing
18. Rather increase sales tax on second homes, and for any that are empty for more than 6 months in every 12 there's a flat fine to be paid
19. Only on liquid assets; if a house is involved I'd put a 15 year ban on being able to realise it as an asset (i.e. can't have loans taken out on it as well as being sold, or any that are are subject to 50% tax) without the 50%
20. Not too sure on this...definitely should be more public accountabilty in the judiciary tho...
21. Yes and no
22. Yup. And put VAT on school fees
23. I'd keep this means tested TBH
24. Energy yes, telcos no (altho I'd make owning a licence to provide comms services include a subsidy to a public national wifi system, and also set up a temporary company to do fibre to every home)
25. I'd insist that companies couldn't make waiving the WTD a requirement for signing a work contract, but I'm not going to tell someone they can't work as long as they want.

 

[kyser_soze]

Also cut down on CCTV unless approved by a local referendum.

I'd set up a legal standard that all state CCTV had to have in terms of picture quality, and make it's implementation subject to local votes. Also, coming stuff like facial recognition would not be allowed in 'live' public CCTV systems, but only used as a forensic tool or as security in high security places. Private CCTV would be subject to a (very expensive) licence and auditing procedure.

New privacy laws concerning digital privacy

Reform the lible laws so they mirror the US - costs paid and a public apology from the writer&publisher, and that's it.

Disestablish the CofE, ditch the blasphemy laws

 

[tbaldwin]

Aye, well I'm not too bothered, the existence of the monarchy one way or the other is not a priority.

I did just notice your proposal to increase fuel tax - nah it should be lowered if anything, instead build on the existing taxes for uneconmical cars, while recognising that older cars are actually less polluting than new given that the vast majority of pollution created by a car is when it is built.

People should get tax breaks for keeping old things running as long as possible not for recyling.

Also bottle recycling should be scraped and replaced with bottle reuse - less profit but also less energy used in reuse.

Also cut down on CCTV unless approved by a local referendum.

In terms of fuel tax. I would like to see less cars on the road and more people using good high quality reliable public transport.
But i have to admit that raising fuel tax does have some erm er difficult side effects. Maybe needs some more work on that side of me manifesto relating to the effects on food prices and those people who live away from towns and bus and train routes.

Some interesting points from kyser as well. I will try and answer those later.

 

[tbaldwin]

1 Cut Income Tax for lower paid...Starting rate of 10% on first £10,000 of somebodys wages. 20% on anything over £20,000. 30% on anything over £30,000. 40% on anything over £40,000. 50% on anything over £50,000.
60% on anything over £60,000.

2 Renationalise the public transport system.
Cut fares and increase capacity.

3 Introduce a maximum wage in the Public and Voluntary sector £70,000.
( For a time limited period doctors would have to be exempt.

4 50% super tax on all advertising.

5 Increase road taxes and petrol.

6 Replace the House of Lords with a second chamber diorectly elected by proportional representation.

7 Stop the recruitment of skilled workers from poorer nations unless companies pay reparations to those nations.

8 Support International Labour rules to ensure that multinationals are obliged to improve the wages and conditions of workers in poorer countries.

9 Bring in a National Labour Scheme. 50% of people presently languishing in UK prison cells would instead be asked if they would prefer to work.
Young unemployed people and those who come in early contact with the Criminal justice system would also be obliged to become part of the NLS..

10 Improve food in schools and hospitals.

11 Referendum of privatising the monarchy.

12 Referendum on Capital punishment.

13 Reform of the Benefits system increasing benefits that dont stop people from working and allowing people on JSA,IB etc to gradually move into work without immediately losing benefits.

14 Increasing the minimum wage for all larger companies who employ over 100 people.

15 Shoot 100 top celebrities voted for by the great british public.

16 Tougher Punishments for all anti social criminals.

17 Major House building programme and knock down more shit housing.

18 Limit on amount of properties that any one person can own.

19 Increase inheritance tax to 50% on all estates of over £500,000

20 Replace the unelected Judiciary with Judges directly elected by people in the areas that they serve.

21 Legalise Cannabis but only allowed to be sold in the renationalised post offices.

22 Cut Charitable Status to private schools.

23 End any subsidy for people from private schools in the UK university system.

24 Renationalise energy and telecoms.

25 Cut the workking week and increase the minimum wage.

26 Thinking about it i think 13 needs replacing with a citizens income for all adults of £75 a week. Maybe should be limited to people on less than £25,000 a year.
A citizens income could replace JSA and mean that unemployed people would not be penalised if they got part time or even full time work.

27 Have an elected 2nd chamber to replace the house of lords 100 members elected by PR.

28 MPs with 2nd jobs to pay any extra income back to compensate the electors for not doing a full time job full time.

29 MPs only to be allowed a set amount for expenses.

 

[Streathamite]

why no 'vastly tighter regulation concerning transactions in the financial services sector to prevent the greedy, myopic bastards dumping us all in the shit AGAIN legislation'? and ditto vastly tighter regulation of what execs/directors of PLCs mayor may not do? and vastly tighter accounting laws?

 

[tbaldwin]

why no 'vastly tighter regulation concerning transactions in the financial services sector to prevent the greedy, myopic bastards dumping us all in the shit AGAIN legislation'? and ditto vastly tighter regulation of what execs/directors of PLCs mayor may not do? and vastly tighter accounting laws?

Both good ideas.
Just wanted to say in thinking again i want to change the 50% inheritance tax on anything over £500,000 to 100% i blame urbans liberal influence on me in the past for being so wimpy about it.
And if we did stop all inheritance tax over £500,000 the country would have billions extra every year.