Tax return blues - would a bit of solidarity help?

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by billy_bob, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    is that tomorrow-today or tomorrow-tomorrow? :p

    i'm not walking across town today as i have a sick kid, so that'll be tomorrow-tomorrow...
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  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  3. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Seriously? You do all the calculations and the bloody thing can't even just take you to a checkout where the amount to pay is already filled in????

    Weeks of work and worry and I owe the fuckers £61.75. That's going to save the NHS yeah.

    On the plus side whilst frantically hunting for old bank statements I found a voucher for an online knitting shop that I thought was lost forever! So I've now bought a swift (thing for winding yarn).

    And I have signed up to be a research participant for the Gov Digital Service when they get round to making HMRC online actually usable. Thank me next year.
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  4. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Also on the plus side I'm now properly registered as self-employed and it holds no fear, so I can look for extra bits and bobs of work without worrying about it.
  5. lazythursday

    lazythursday Well-Known Member

    You think that's bad? A couple of years ago if you wanted to pay it online you had to go to a completely separate thing called 'BillPay' that had its own entirely different complicated login process. That was usually when I started actually screaming.
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  6. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    today i have 2 sick kids :facepalm: but i called in babysitting so i've retrieved my numbers. writing them down and adding them up next :thumbs: glad i had a trial run last year with only half a year's numbers. iirc the rest is downhill. famous last words.
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  7. Vintage Paw

    Vintage Paw dead stare and computer glare

    Even now though the bits of the website look so drastically different and you sit there worrying you're in the wrong place and doing the wrong thing. My return isn't at all complicated and all I had to pay was NI, but it's still a nerve-wracking experience.

    On another note, last year I gave him indoors 10% of my allowance, and realised he never told them when he changed his name when we got married, so his NI number and name don't match their records, so I had to put his old name down, and said "you must remember to change that."

    Same again this year :facepalm:
  8. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Yes I was particularly thrilled by the bit where it asked me about my PAYE earnings and I was able to look them up on a different area of the same website and enter them manually... :facepalm:
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  9. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    I've been Impressed in the past, when I've had to phone HMRC to tell them my "actual earnings" figures for self employment profit that I had already put in my tax return (which I'd filed early).
  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm close to finishing which equals pints tonight, if successful. I think I've fucked up my NI payments though. They used to be taken from my bank account automatically and then they stopped. I ticked some box that seemed to say "yes I'll pay for the NI payments" but in my haste to forget the whole experience I may have got it wrong.
  11. lazythursday

    lazythursday Well-Known Member

    I think you pay all the NI via the tax return now. The regular payments have stopped.

    I didn't pay mine for years and spent months trying to get HMRC to just tell me how much I owed so I could pay it off, as the letters only ever had the latest bit owed on them. Impossible. Had to wait for them to put a debt collection agency on it in order to get a bloody figure out of them.
  12. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Bricking myself today because I couldn't work out how to fill out a return for some extra freelance earnings now that I'm PAYE, and was suddenly convinced I'd had to re-register last October (and didn't). In fact you don't have to, it's just really obscure as to how to start the return. Nice UI work there HMRC.

    Thankfully I have now managed to contribute the cost of around 60% of a duck island to the public coffers.
  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  14. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    Hands up who is saying "next year I will start earlier"? Hahahahaha.....
  15. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    done. last in? :D
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  16. mx wcfc

    mx wcfc Well-Known Member

    I'm in but I doubt you will be the last. Finally sent it in last night. I did it early Jan. Couldn't figure out why I was getting a big repayment so dithered about pressing the button. Remembered something. Added that it. Still got a few quid back but not as much as before. Bugger.
  17. Sue

    Sue Well-Known Member

    My friend is still working on hers as are all her friends. (((Actors)))
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  18. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    Wasn't completely confident I got it right and I do seem to have to pay more than I thought I should, so pressed send rather than pay more in penalties.....
  19. Schmetterling

    Schmetterling I saw something nasty in the woodshed!

    That’s ok as you can go back and amend it.
  20. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I've resolved to try and get some sort of basic accounting software and chip away at it throughout the year so I don't end up in another last minute frenzy of calculations on paper.

    But then I say that every year...
  21. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    Not sure what you consider 'basic accounting software', nor do I know how complex your situation, so what I use may be more than you need, and too costly, but I fucking love xero, makes life so easy!

    Pricing Plans for Small Business Accounting | Xero
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  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    £120 a year is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much for my humble needs.
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  23. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    Fair enough, I only went for it when I had to go VAT registered, at £20 pm for me it saves loads of time, so makes it well worthwhile.
  24. salem

    salem Well-Known Member

    Quickbooks is £6/month (£2/month for the first 6 months) or Wave accounting is free.

    The former is built with UK tax etc in mind where as wave is for more generic invoicing and book keeping.
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  25. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    I've now discovered that what I've declared as my savings interest was not quite right by about £20s worth of tax (I panicked and requested a statement from the bank, which now it's turned up is calculated on a slightly different basis from the bits of paper I managed to scrape together at the 11th hour). I thought you were supposed to be able to amend a tax return and the help files agree, but the system won't actually let me in. Should I give up and not bother?
  26. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    That's still more than I want to pay. My needs really are basic as I earn fuck all. There's some decent looking Android apps I'll look into.
  27. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    You can't amend it now the filing date has pasted.
  28. Schmetterling

    Schmetterling I saw something nasty in the woodshed!

  29. Leafster

    Leafster From the FRow

    Many of my smaller clients with very straightforward affairs keep simple spreadsheets analysing their bank and cash transactions and sometimes listing their sales invoices. They could (and some do) download the csv files from their online banking as a starting point for their bank analyses.

    Things may change with HMRC's MTD (Making Tax Digital) as they expect taxpayers to be using software to prepare the data for submission but the implementation of MTD keeps getting delayed so who knows when that's likely to happen. It also appears there may be "free" software when the times comes.
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  30. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

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