Tax return blues - would a bit of solidarity help?

Discussion in 'education & employment' started by billy_bob, Jan 8, 2015.


    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    And so it begins. I decided today was the day.
    First of all I internally congratulate myself just for pulling out my user ID and password from a folder on a high shelf. Start tidying the kitchen and childs bedroom (what?) now I have just run myself a deep hot bath (instead of the usual shower).

    As long as I log in today I will call that progress.
  2. zora

    zora true to the crab

    That's definitely progress! Don't know what it is about finding the log-in details, but that seems to me like a big mental hurdle, too, and is the task I've set myself for today.
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  3. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    It's important to have realistic goals :)
  4. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    feeling v virtuous. Almost done collecting the relevant bits of paper into folders. :cool:
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  5. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    expenditure for april - check :thumbs::facepalm:
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  6. ricbake

    ricbake working out how

    Decided to see if I was going to struggle with connecting to HMRC

    "Thank you for sending the online Self Assessment submission to the 'TEST IN LIVE' service."

    That works
    I just have to populate the forms with this years figures now......
  7. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    Some advice for anyone thinking of becoming self-employed in the future and wanting to make this time of year easier:
    • never give to charity
    • never put your money anywhere where it'll earn interest
    • never, ever, ever do a combination of self-employed working and PAYE working :eek:
  8. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    i got bogged down with the books in the great LED scramble of may 2016

    then i went back to my "filing" and got bogged down in the manic eBay splurge of early 2017

    and now the weed is kicking in and it might be wise to take a break :D
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  9. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    oh fuck :(
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  10. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    Well that's my tax return filed anyway. Hope everyone else isn't having too much difficulty.
  11. Cheesypoof

    Cheesypoof Fuck off Noddy Banned

    i feel your pain.....:(. I am a contracter with my employer and hire a firm to do all my tax...costs me €90 a month!!!:eek: i cant be dealing with it :(
  12. iamwithnail

    iamwithnail Well-Known Member

    . Nm, Repeating something I said earlier.
  13. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    and then i woke up this morning in a panic realising i'd made a mistake , so have had to amend it - which i didn't realise you could do, but is really easy. Phew!
  14. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    I used to leave it to the last moment, now I have an accountant & I run Xero accountancy software, linked to the bank account, so I reconcile it daily & upload any invoices/receipts for outgoings, so everything is there for my accountant as soon as the tax year ends.

    Knowing what I need to pay months in advance is handy for budgeting, especially as I have to file a VAT return in January & pay that too. My blood pressure at this time of year no longer shoots up!

  15. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    I have a friendly accountant now (recommended by a lovely urbanite) so hopefully things will get better from here on in. I sent them everything on Friday night, in a giant zip file, and now am hoping that they'll get back to me to say they have all the info they need to complete the return on my behalf. In future maybe they'll nudge / encourage me to get things done gradually instead of at the last possible moment.
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  16. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    My accountant tries to get people organised, it's easier with clients using accountancy software, she told me last week that her firm was still waiting on stuff from over 200 clients, and the team has been working flat out 6-days a week & 12 hour days. For the first time in my life I found myself feeling sorry for accountants. :D
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  17. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    What about if you have 3 PAYE jobs on top of self-employment, including one you had totally forgotten about? :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
    Last edited: Jan 21, 2018
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  18. RubyToogood

    RubyToogood can't remember what goes here

    I too had this. However! Whilst searching through my emails in case I had an electronic copy I found a useful note from the finance person asking us all to use our HMRC online tax account, and that has all the details (except the organisation's tax ID :mad: ) in it! Personal tax account: sign in or set up - GOV.UK.

    I'd completely forgotten this previously as being too boring. It uses the same login as your self-assessment form.
  19. billy_bob

    billy_bob supercalifragilistic-borussiamönchengladbach

    Escape to Guatemala.
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  20. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

    If it's an issue you can phone the tax office on 0300 200 3300 (voice operated - say 'coding' to speak to a person) and ask them to send you the p60 details. They know even if you don't.

    Then you'd phone self-assessment (0300 200 3310) and tell them the tax office is delaying your filing by the due date (2 weeks post timescale) and ask for an extension.

    Any reasonable excuse will result in an extension.
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  21. pengaleng

    pengaleng Lil' J Pengele PhD. The Angel of Sesh

    I aint been at work for ages and am expecting invoice hell this week and a pile of unallocated faded unreadable receipts

    ATOMIC SUPLEX Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3

    Great. Set myself up this morning to get all this done. Record on, seat adjusted, files and invoices to my right. Undisturbed until 3pm.
    It's quarter past 11. I've gone through several records, started some braised ox cheeks, and browsed longboards on line.

    Not logged into my account as of yet.
    I think I need to go to the shops, so this might end up being a job for tomorrow.
  23. lazythursday

    lazythursday Well-Known Member

    I did mine early this year cos of the sneaky pulling of credit card payments in mid Jan. All went surprisingly smoothly this time which has left me with nagging doubts about what awful thing I have done wrong.

    And I have discovered you can pay on account by monthly direct debit. A good idea, or just a cunning way for HMRC to get my cash early and earn interest on it? I am undecided.
  24. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    lazythursday & everyone else:

    HMRC are planning to move towards quarterly tax returns, in the same manner as VAT returns are quarterly, as they more towards ‘Making Tax Digital’, IIRC it was originally due to come in this year, but has been pushed back, from my understanding it's now coming in for VAT registered businesses in 2019, and all other self-employed people & SME's in 2020.

    I am told it should be easy for those of us using the likes of Xero or QuickBooks accountancy software, good luck to everyone else. :)
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  25. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Still struggling at the 'getting started' bit.
  26. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    I used to always find that the hardest, but once I started I would get stuck in & get the bloody thing done.
  27. Sasaferrato

    Sasaferrato Thank fuck it's not over.

    This time last year, it could well have been me you were speaking to. I was on the SA Helpline. (I filled my own one in on the 31st last year, praying that the system wouldn't crash.).
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  28. lazythursday

    lazythursday Well-Known Member

    The one thing I've grown to like about the whole process is the fact that you are whisked through a portal back to 2004 or so, where you are warned about the length of time it might take to download a PDF file of your return by dial up modem. It is like visiting a video shop or a coal mine or something.
  29. cupid_stunt

    cupid_stunt Dyslexic King Cnut the Great.

    Seriously? :D

    I've not seen that, as my accountants files my return. But, yeah, the whole HMRC site is a bit of a mess TBH.
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  30. wayward bob

    wayward bob i ate all your bees

    the fine for missing the deadline is less than the fee an accountant would charge and all they do is put the numbers in the right boxes. i'm still at the finding out what the numbers are stage :D

    i have mysteriously made a pair of beautiful striped mittens in tiny yarn over the past 2 days :hmm:

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