Tactical Voting on May 1st

[belboid]

Oh dear god! you really are an imbecile, it's the only explanation.

There is not one iota of evidence that Johnson has learnt a thing from his previous 'mis-speakings' - or else why would he keep repeating them (or similar ones)?

If he was going to keep all racists and homophobes out of City Hall, he'd have to debar himself and half (at least) of his campaign team!

You ARE voting for a racist and a homophobe, and you don't even have the guts to admit it.

How would you explain his comments noted above? They ARE homphobic, aren't they?

 

[spanglechick]

what experience does boris have of living like an average londoner?

how can this son of the gentry, pubic school boy, for whom the closest experience of poverty is death duties have any fucking conception of what life is like for millions of londoners?

ken is undeniably wealthy now - but he's a damn sight more in touch with reality than Henley-boy.

 

[tbaldwin]

Qaradawi has sweet fuck all power in this country. If mayor, Johnson, who we note you do not deny is actually a racist and a homophobe himself, would have.

You are voting for a racist and a homophobe. Come on, admit it!

Racist and Homophobic? I think you are wrong to say either. I dont believe that he is either.
There is a huge difference between somebody like Boris who says things to make people laugh or shock them than someone like Qaradawi.

Do you really think Boris looks down his nose more at Black and Asian people than he would working class people in general. Do you really think that you would be more likely to see Qaradawi in a gay pub than boris.....

The accusations of racism and homophobia sound like the last barrel being scraped by Ken a man who thinks that Lee Japser is a good representative for Black people!!!!!!!!!!

 

[belboid]

"Do you really think that you would be more likely to see Qaradawi in a gay pub than boris....." eh? No, but it is entirely beside the point, Qaradawi isn't standing as mayor of london.

The accusations of racism and homophobia come because.... Johnson is a racist and a homophobe. The fact that he covers his bigotry with piss poor 'humour' is irrelevant. You do, at least, recognise that Johnson hates ALL working-class people, even if you don't agree he hates some more than others

Come on KBJ - admit you're voting for a reactionary scum!

 

[tbaldwin]

"Do you really think that you would be more likely to see Qaradawi in a gay pub than boris....." eh? No, but it is entirely beside the point, Qaradawi isn't standing as mayor of london.

The accusations of racism and homophobia come because.... Johnson is a racist and a homophobe. The fact that he covers his bigotry with piss poor 'humour' is irrelevant. You do, at least, recognise that Johnson hates ALL working-class people, even if you don't agree he hates some more than others

Come on KBJ - admit you're voting for a reactionary scum!

I think Hate is probably too strong a word...i doubt if he hates them any more than will self or ken livingstone etc just i dont think he would be feeling that at ease with the lower orders....
He really is not a racist or a homophobe....isnt his wife half indian? isnt he a bit turkish....didnt he go to a public school and play rugger.....

 

[belboid]

not sure how any of that rules him out for being racist & homophobic. His comments I quoted above are not exaclty 'gay friendly' are they?

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Oh dear god! you really are an imbecile, it's the only explanation.

There is not one iota of evidence that Johnson has learnt a thing from his previous 'mis-speakings' - or else why would he keep repeating them (or similar ones)?

If he was going to keep all racists and homophobes out of City Hall, he'd have to debar himself and half (at least) of his campaign team!

You ARE voting for a racist and a homophobe, and you don't even have the guts to admit it.

How would you explain his comments noted above? They ARE homphobic, aren't they?

Boris has made questionable statements in the past but I believe that he has moved beyond that. It was more a question of choice of language and not being properly informed from what I can see.

Anyway London needs a change and we need to clean Livingstones sleaze out of city hall and that is my main driving force for supporting Boris.

Whatever Boris is he isn't a dyed in the wool racist like the bnp.

A term of Boris will do the city good.

 

[belboid]

you're a fucking idiot. A racist, homophobe, loving idiot.

I hope you get exactly what you deserve.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

what experience does boris have of living like an average londoner?

how can this son of the gentry, pubic school boy, for whom the closest experience of poverty is death duties have any fucking conception of what life is like for millions of londoners?

ken is undeniably wealthy now - but he's a damn sight more in touch with reality than Henley-boy.

Livingstone is equally if not more divorced from the lives of the ordinary Londoner than Boris is. What has Livingstone done in the real world. He lived off of the public purse as GLC leader, then lived off the public purse as an MP now wallows in public money as Mayor.

Livingstone is also out of touch don't forget that.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

you're a fucking idiot. A racist, homophobe, loving idiot.

I hope you get exactly what you deserve.

No I'm neither a racist a homophobe or an idiot. I'm just voting tactically to remove something worse than Boris.

 

[KeyboardJockey]

...didnt he go to a public school and play rugger.....

LOL!

 

[belboid]

I didn't say you were a racist or a homophobe - I said you were having a love in with one.

You are blatantly an idiot.

Livingstone even more removed from real Londoners concerns than Etonian upper-class Johnson. You couldn't make up such bullshit!

 

[belboid]

& its funny that the tory lover here has only managed to come up with ONE policy from his mate that he thinsk worth supporting!

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Livingstone even more removed from real Londoners concerns than Etonian upper-class Johnson. You couldn't make up such bullshit!

i did say equally out of touch.

 

[belboid]

'equally if not more'

 

[KeyboardJockey]

'equally if not more'

The explanation for the 'if not more' comment is at least Boris has worked outside politics Livingstone has spent his entire life as a claimant on the public purse.

 

[spanglechick]

& its funny that the tory lover here has only managed to come up with ONE policy from his mate that he thinsk worth supporting!

is that the kids on buses losing thier free oysters if they are caught being anti social?

it already exists - so, not much of a policy...

 

[belboid]

The explanation for the 'if not more' comment is at least Boris has worked outside politics Livingstone has spent his entire life as a claimant on the public purse.

Dear god! you are swallowing all his bullshit whole! He was given The Spectator to run. You are aware of what The Spectator is, aren't you?

 

[KeyboardJockey]

is that the kids on buses losing thier free oysters if they are caught being anti social?

it already exists - so, not much of a policy...

They are supposed to lose their entitlement but it seems that this isn't happening enough. Boris will tighten up this policy. It is wrong that someone can commit an offence that may lose them their transport privilidges a considerable after the offence. This time needs to be shortened for justices sake.

 

[belboid]

You've actually got Johnsons policy totally wrong. The one thing you can think of thats worth supporting - and you dont even know what the facts are!

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/society/factcheck+are+yobs+getting+a+free+ride/1546947

 

[KeyboardJockey]

Dear god! you are swallowing all his bullshit whole! He was given The Spectator to run. You are aware of what The Spectator is, aren't you?

Yup. Its right wing but its hardly National Front News is it.

 

[belboid]

oh well, thats alright then!

And, you miss the point, that his only 'job' was being given the editorship of a right-wing paper by a mate, rich life experience

 

[PaulOK]

My predictions are 2 for Greens, 1 for UKIP, 0 for BNP, Respect`s Left List and Galloway.

Disagree - UKIP have collapsed - Green 1, BNP 1 and Respect (Galloway) 1.

It will be a major fuck up for Barnbrook if the BNP don't get at least one - This guy wants to be fuhrer so bad it hurts! He'll use his GLA seat as a springboard to displace Griffin as leader later this year, I reckon.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Only fools or Tories will be voting for Johnson. And then it's only a matter of time before the whole country is being run by the Bullingdon Club. What a fucking nightmare!!!

 

[PaulOK]

Only fools or Tories will be voting for Johnson. And then it's only a matter of time before the whole country is being run by the Bullingdon Club. What a fucking nightmare!!!

Nahh! It'll just return to the way things were before Harold Wilson - The upper middle classes will be replaced by the Etonian aristos - Britain's 'default' position!

 

[butchersapron]

All the same, Callaghan and Major the only non-oxbridge PMs. The old buffingdons have megersd with the go-getters. All one and the same nowadays.

 

[Urbanblues]

Johnson has said some idiotic things but I'd rather have someone who has been stupid and learned from it than someone who like Livingstone talks the talk.

I don't vote for racists and homophobes and I was impressed by Boris's promise that he wouldn't invite to city hall any guest who was sexist racist or homophobic.

Johnson has made a profitable career out of saying “…some idiotic things…” Johnson does not learn from his mistakes; no, he comes out with ever more outrageous comments, be they racist, sexist, homophobic or condemnatory of entire towns and cities. Certain elements may share his racist and homophobic rantings; but, for all those who guffaw at his public school humour, there’ll be scores who are offended.

Johnson is from an elitist background; his entire life is one of privilege; he shares this with a very tiny minority of Londoners. Four years of Johnson will wreck London; we’ll go from an international city were diversity is celebrated; to a town divided along lines of haves and have nots.

 

[shagnasty]

My first pref definetly sian berry my second still not decided i might vote johnson to weaken brown and nu labour

 

[pingupete]

Minimising BNP seats

Disagree - UKIP have collapsed - Green 1, BNP 1 and Respect (Galloway) 1.

It will be a major fuck up for Barnbrook if the BNP don't get at least one - This guy wants to be fuhrer so bad it hurts! He'll use his GLA seat as a springboard to displace Griffin as leader later this year, I reckon.

Second preference votes in the polls for Mayor have put the Greens between 12 and 15% which indicates we should do well on the Assembly. We will hold 2 seats definitely, 3 is very possible and 4 would be outstanding.

BNP will win 1 or 2 seats. I'm in total disagreement with Jim Page on this. They have delivered more leaflets than ever before and were only 2,500 votes away from a seat last time when they did very little and had no elected councillors. They will benefit from UKIP's decline.

Respect's vote will split between the Left List and Respect (Galloway) on the Assembly list. I've seen no evidence that the acrimony and damage caused by the split has been in any way attractive to Labour voters. Talk of Respect (Galloway) reaching 5% acknowledges that the Left List will take some votes away, but hasn't indicated where new support is coming from, other than talk of people disillusioned with New Labour. Where is the evidence? Ealing Southall?

The Tories will probably gain one or two seats, Labour or the Liberal Democrats will lose one.

If you want to minimise the prospects of the BNP winning more than one seat you have to vote for a party that will win at least one Assembly seat. Not "might win a seat" but "likely to win a seat". Galloway "might" win a seat. German "might" win a seat. But how likely is it? That means Green, Labour, Lib Dem or Tory.

People voting Left List or Respect should do it for the Mayoral contest and in City & East, not on the Assembly list. If you do vote LL or Respect, do it in full knowledge that the side effect is that it helps the BNP. [By the way, it also helps the Greens, so this isn't sectarian but practical - if less people vote for parties finishing with less than 5%, it makes it more difficult for the Greens to win a third or fourth seat]

It's much simpler on First Past The Post. Greens have pulled candidates out of contests in Sandwell and Huddersfield in the last year where there has been a threat of the BNP winning. Respect or the Left List would certainly not stand if there was a risk of the BNP winning a local council seat.

This is a major election, that might hand controlling votes on the budget of the London Mayor over to 2 BNP members, but a collective fog seems to have descended on the left, clouding this fact. Wake up!

Searchlight's guidance here.

"...it is more effective for people to vote for parties that are likely to poll at least 5%, so that their votes count in minimising the BNP’s seats if it does exceed the threshold."

 

[gabi]

The explanation for the 'if not more' comment is at least Boris has worked outside politics Livingstone has spent his entire life as a claimant on the public purse.

Wait, so your argument is that Livingstone has *too much* politicial experience? That Boris's relative lack of experience is actually an advantage? Weird.