Synergy Centre

[steve indigenou]

Maybe a little, but we are happy to be a broadish church. I for example, was sceptical about 9/11 conspirary theories, but when I read into it I found that there were anomalies. Would I spend much time on it myself ? No. Would I allow the centre to host a discussion - now I would.

History is full of visionary thinkers who were dismissed as nutters in their lifetime but were subsequently vindicated. There are some nutters who we wouldn't have, for sure, but other potential nutters / visionaries I am wary of turning away. Particularly if they want to pay a room hire fee that helps to sustain the centre. A 16000 sq ft centre costs a lot more to maintain than a web-site, as I am sure you will appreciate.

I think how we deal with people we disagree with is an interesting question. We can attack them as nutters / cunts or whatever (the BNP deserve this treatment perhaps) but others are relatively harmless. Though I am not inclined to rule out the possibility that paranormal phenonemon are not worth exploring (synchronicity for example defies proof but still, in my opinion, occurs). They may amuse you, but I can't find any harm in what the Remote Viewing guys are doing.

If we were overflowing with New Age / Alternative workshops, the issue of our reputation would be a relevant one. As it is, we have some alternative content, but much more stuff that is much more accessible. We are conscious of our own image particularly as it's vital that the local authority trusts us to deliver relevant services to troubled youth.

Steve

 

[steve indigenou]

If you want an ounce of credibility I'd have nothing to do with it whatsoever.

Thanks for the advice, but we seem to be able to struck the right balance, at least in the eyes of the key strategic local partners. Keep an open mind, would be my advice. Our current materialist world-view will surely be seen to have its limitations in 100-200 years time, in the same way that contemporary world views have eclipsed those of the 19th century.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Keep an open mind, would be my advice.

It's amazing how many peoples mind is so open it's fallen out of the hole created.

 

[editor]

Thanks for the advice, but we seem to be able to struck the right balance, at least in the eyes of the key strategic local partners.

I can see how such an envisioning approach ensures that key strategic partners remain onboard for a low-risk high-yield project, led by your core aspiration statement, team dynamics and synergistic empowerment.

 

[editor]

Maybe a little, but we are happy to be a broadish church. I for example, was sceptical about 9/11 conspirary theories, but when I read into it I found that there were anomalies. Would I spend much time on it myself ? No. Would I allow the centre to host a discussion - now I would.

History is full of visionary thinkers who were dismissed as nutters in their lifetime but were subsequently vindicated.

So are you saying that the 9/11 'truth' movement is full of these "visionary thinkers" or did you have yourself more in mind for that accolade?

 

[Belushi]

History is full of visionary thinkers who were dismissed as nutters in their lifetime but were subsequently vindicated.

Its even fuller of nutters who were dismissed as nutters in their lifetime and who we would still consider nutters today.

 

[editor]

Its even fuller of nutters who were dismissed as nutters in their lifetime and who we would still consider nutters today.

 

[teecee]

Maybe a little, but we are happy to be a broadish church. I for example, was sceptical about 9/11 conspirary theories,
Steve

And with good reason , if there really was a 9/11 conspiracy that could happily kill thousands of people for a few barrels of oil why are all the 9/11 conspirators still alive -surely if any were even close to the truth they'd be dead by now

enough derailing though

And I think I know how to solve your funding issues : Prove remote viewing works, win a million dollars. think of all those lovely shiny iMacs you could buy with that. Think of how much you could then contribute to the community without it costing anyone a thing. Now that would definitely be a worthy service to the community. If you let us know who the key strategic partners are I'd be glad to send them the details as I'm sure they'd love to save some money if they could.

You'll get a lot more than fleecing a few gullible punters at £6 a shot

 

[Dubversion]

does the remote viewer ever get lost down the back of the sofa?

 

[Blagsta]

Are you playing this

on the headphones?

 

[steve indigenou]

It's up to you guys.

If you want to portray the centre in a way that fits your preconceptions, that's up to you.

For those who found it hard to understand the first time...

The Synergy Centre does not organise the remote viewing workshop. They hire our space.

In the past, some Urbanites have asked the legitimate question "what are you doing for the community." I think we are answering that now.

If instead of taking that on board, and giving us the credit it deserves, you would rather poke fun at one workshop - one amongst many - then that says more about you than it does about us.

There were two excellent threads recently about gun and gang culture in Brixton / Stockwell. Some excellent and informative posts were made. On the 25th October we are organising a public meeting to discuss these issues, with funding from the Home Office and leading representatives of the Black Community. I suspect that most local people will focus on events like that, and the Youth Inclusion Programme, rather than the by now customary sectarian jibes that seem to some urbanites speciality.

Which begs the question :

What achieves more in terms of improving the quality of life for local people in South London - petty squabbles and rheotical jousting on a popular cyber-forum used by a self-appointed cultural / polticical cognoscenti

or

meaninful programmes and activities for local young people to divert them away from criminality and anti-social behaviour ?

No doubt you will dodge this issue - I will leave you to your self-congratulatory and oh-so-witty remarks about how radical, hip, cool and underground you are all.

While we get on with some more serious matters.

 

[editor]

No doubt you will dodge this issue - I will leave you to your self-congratulatory and oh-so-witty remarks about how radical, hip, cool and underground you are all.

Are you still paying yourself a really good wage from Synergy?

No doubt you will dodge the question.

 

[teecee]

meaninful programmes and activities for local young people to divert them away from criminality and anti-social behaviour ?

I'm all for that and think it is a worthy goal but I fail to see how facilitating Remote Viewing workshops helps them or you achieve this goal , they need activities that can help . Filling their heads with BS is not going to help them .

But my original point still stands even if you're not directly involved (I missed that point first time round, sorry ),

Help prove that remote viewing works and help win $1 mill from the Randi Foundation , with which you can then do so much for the community and I'll be the first in line to shake your hand and admit I was wrong. By all means teach them lucid dreaming and give them an understanding into how the human brain works and how easily we can fool ourselves and they'll get a lot more from that than letting them believe they've got some kind of super power. Imagine the disaffected youth wondering around believing they have powers beyond the rest of the mere mortals around them.

Alternatively it could be teaching them how easy it is to rip off gullible people, preparing a new generation of con artists - not really a lesson you want coming from the use of your resources I'm sure.

 

[steve indigenou]

Teecee,

I hate to get impatient with you, but you're not paying attention. Read my first post and you'll realise that :

we don't organise the remote viewing workshops and we don't offer it as a service to local young people. The Centre management team spend precisely zero hours a year on the remote viewing workshop, other than to chat briefly with the guys running it and deposit their hire fee in the cash box.

Does this clarify things - as it renders your last post redundant.

Steve

 

[steve indigenou]

Editor,

I get less than £100 a week plus housing to run the Centre.

Do you find this excessive ?

Steve

 

[Tricky Skills]

Editor,

I get less than £100 a week plus housing to run the Centre.

Do you find this excessive ?

Steve

Good stuff for being honest and stating a figure. But I reckon that you could earn at least a living wage for yourself if you were to charge the remote viewing facilitators a fair bit more. Given their IT spend, it's not as though they are short a bob or two.

 

[Blagsta]

It's up to you guys.

If you want to portray the centre in a way that fits your preconceptions, that's up to you.

For those who found it hard to understand the first time...

The Synergy Centre does not organise the remote viewing workshop. They hire our space.

In the past, some Urbanites have asked the legitimate question "what are you doing for the community." I think we are answering that now.

If instead of taking that on board, and giving us the credit it deserves, you would rather poke fun at one workshop - one amongst many - then that says more about you than it does about us.

There were two excellent threads recently about gun and gang culture in Brixton / Stockwell. Some excellent and informative posts were made. On the 25th October we are organising a public meeting to discuss these issues, with funding from the Home Office and leading representatives of the Black Community. I suspect that most local people will focus on events like that, and the Youth Inclusion Programme, rather than the by now customary sectarian jibes that seem to some urbanites speciality.

Which begs the question :

What achieves more in terms of improving the quality of life for local people in South London - petty squabbles and rheotical jousting on a popular cyber-forum used by a self-appointed cultural / polticical cognoscenti

or

meaninful programmes and activities for local young people to divert them away from criminality and anti-social behaviour ?

No doubt you will dodge this issue - I will leave you to your self-congratulatory and oh-so-witty remarks about how radical, hip, cool and underground you are all.

While we get on with some more serious matters.

Fair play to you tbh. I was just taking the piss out of remote viewing, it's an easy target.

 

[editor]

Blimey. I've just had an enormous email from a big mailing list claiming all sorts of bad things about the Synergy Centre. I'll post up a link when it goes on the web.

...this is all of our business, it is about one individual who moved into our scene 5 years ago and corralled our movement to finance his personal dream where he rules as the emperor. such behaviour is the root cause of all the ills of our world - human behaviour that is predatory, callous, destructive and abusive...

In the initial days of the Project being founded, S--- set up the company so, that instead of it being owned by the people who were responsible for it, (D--, R--- and S---) it was "technically" owned by S--- and two of his mates.
>> when i heard this i immediately assumed one was a lawyer. it looks now that at least one of them is an accountant.

Fast forward 3 years: S--- resigns from the Synergy Project after being confronted by almost the entire organisation regarding his increasingly arrogant, self absorbed and negative behaviour, both in his involvement in the Project and in running the Synergy Centre.
"the synergy centre is a building within which s--- gets to play with his empire using other people's energy to pay himself to do it. it" brain.

And NOW, two years after this, he has used the aforementioned legal technicality to claim that he "owns" the Synergy brand. Basically a hostile and energetically filthy takeover. Not only this but he has threatened to SUE the Synergy Project for going ahead with their latest party on the basis that the association with "drug culture" will damage HIS brand, the Synergy Centre!

To make all this legal nastiness go away, the deal S---- proposed was that the Synergy Project hand over the entire organisation:-
the rights to the name
the Domain name
the promotional infrastructure that has been developed since he left
the mailing list
and 10 GRAND IN CASH!!!

Eek!



(names removed)

 

[han]

bloody hell, it's a soap opera!

 

[rennie]

They still pollute my inbox every now and again.

 

[cesare]

Cults and Religions

Timely innit

 

[editor]

I expect the full story to be up on this multi coloured website soon:
http://parallel-youniversity.com/

 

[han]

god, Fraser Clarke. What a nutcase!

That site has continually been one of the most bizarre things on the internet since about 1998!

 

[cesare]

Is it a piss-take?

 

[editor]

god, Fraser Clarke. What a nutcase!

That site has continually been one of the most bizarre things on the internet since about 1998!

Yep. But I always imagined him and the Synergy Centre to be the perfect match but it looks like the marriage is definitely over!

Is it a piss-take?

I don't think Fraser Clarke does piss takes. And, to be honest, what he's saying is ringing a few bells with me bearing in mind some of the earlier threads here.

 

[Thimble Queen]

I was there on friday, helping out with a fundraising event... it was just a bunch of hippies, battered, wanting to make sock puppets and cuddle each other...

Seems fairly harmless to me

 

[cesare]

I don't think Fraser Clarke does piss takes. And, to be honest, what he's saying is ringing a few bells with me bearing in mind some of the earlier threads here.

I'd never heard of him before. Interesting isn't it ...

 

[Citizen66]

Remember them? Remember their promise of community youth projects? Well they're doing a remote viewing workshop



http://www.transcendence.me.uk/london_workshops.html


Oh dear

lol

I never understood why you guys were so hostile to the synergy mob tbh.

I deduced that because some of you had your own DJ nights on in the area that it was maybe some childish competetive territorial thing,

But, of course, I might be wrong...

 

[editor]

But, of course, I might be wrong...

Yes you are. Quite embarrassingly wrong, actually.

 

[Citizen66]

Yes you are. Quite embarrassingly wrong, actually.

Not at all.

If I remember rightly the outrage was over them 'spamming' urban for their nights.

Plenty of people spam urban for many reasons and immediately disappear into the bin. And rightly so.

But there was special attention on this occassion with lots of chest beating.

Why?