Swatting claims its first victim.

[ViolentPanda]

Everything is wrong? Police in the UK shot dead 55 people since 1993. Which is about the same as the Americans manage in most three weeks periods. That number includes the London and Westminster Bridge attackers. Although not the Lee Rigby cunts who were shot but arrested alive by the trigger happy cops.

Our communities would be much better if only coke dealers had guns...

Comparison with the USA is spurious. Our gun laws mean that coppers aren't - or rather shouldn't be - keyed up that every encounter is going to see them shot. In N.I. in the early '80s, the British army were almost routinely petrol-bombed, and shot at in parts of Belfast and Derry, what every patrol (except the cunts in the red berets) tended to do, was NOT start shooting, but attempt to work through the encounter, either by pushing through, or going round the "blockage". Our RoE basically left armed force as a last resort that had to be sanctioned by a senior officer (one of the many rules that cunt Lee Clegg broke, was that he - and the rest of his squad - all had their weapons loaded, even though they were manning a routine mobile road block. The right-wing press didn't shout about that when they were yelling about freeing the maggot).

 

[likesfish]

The US police don't even follow the ROE that the US military actually follows in iraq or afgahistan.

They'd be a lot more controlled.

Its less a militarisation of the police more the police playing call of duty all the kit and no idea .
Unless your taking the very very worse of the US military the US navy seals who produced a set of orders "we are going to grid so and so too shoot bad guys ". A rather cowboy attitude which left two seals dead in a kid you not holding your breath underwater contest.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

A us SWAT team can be highly trained professionals or can be regular coppers given the uniform and told your swat go shoot bad guys .
Police response is going to be very diffrent if you ring up saying I've murdered someone and I'm going to murder the rest of my hostages and everyone else I can they are going to come in expecting a gun fight .
Swatting has been happening for awhile eventually it was going to have this result

It's even worse than that. The hiring and training of cops can vary widely. In some places, its a four year degree and then patrol school. In other's it can be as simple as having some military background and being 21 or over or a two-year associates degree. In still others, it can be as simple as getting elected to the position. Back home, our county Sheriff is a running joke. (They had a series of break-ins that he couldn't seem to solve. The State Patrol took up the case, and arrested someone shortly after--the Sheriff's son.) So its theoretically possible for someone with very little training be sent out as SWAT.

 

[Mordi]

A rather cowboy attitude which left two seals dead in a kid you not holding your breath underwater contest.

If only all their operations were so successful.

 

[pesh]

Which one won?

 

[emanymton]

Yep. Not hard, given enough time, effort and public information. Most people aren't paranoid enough to hide/obfuscate their identities. I know I'm totally doxxable in just a few simple moves, for example.

I know that using IP addresses isn't how it is normally done but I found this interesting.

https://splinternews.com/how-an-internet-mapping-glitch-turned-a-random-kansas-f-1793856052

 

[keybored]

I know that using IP addresses isn't how it is ngormally done but I found this interesting.

https://splinternews.com/how-an-internet-mapping-glitch-turned-a-random-kansas-f-1793856052

Not so surprising that amateur-sleuth Joe Public is getting bamboozled but it's shocking that law enforcement (including FBI) keep turning up with warrants and such. And they're allowed to carry guns.

 

[emanymton]

Not so surprising that amateur-sleuth Joe Public is getting bamboozled but it's shocking that law enforcement (including FBI) keep turning up with warrants and such. And they're allowed to carry guns.

So are Joe Public.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

So are Joe Public.

And the body count of the cops is nothing compared to Joe Public.

Gun deaths of cops: 125 (2017)
Gun deaths by cops: 1,129 (2017)
Joe Public: 11,008 (2014)

 

[DotCommunist]

involuntary manslaughter is the charge.

Involuntary manslaughter occurs when the agent has no intention (mens rea) of committing murder, but caused the death of another through recklessness or criminal negligence. The crime of involuntary manslaughter can be subdivided into two main categories: constructive manslaughter and gross negligencemanslaughter.

had to look that up. I imagine they'll be going for the 'constructive' bit

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Turns out the guy responsible is a tool with form for this kind of thing

Los Angeles Man Charged With Manslaughter Over 'Swatting' Death