Support Gary McKinnon

[kittyP]

Woop woop is what I have to say about this

 

[IC3D]

I find the timing interesting in relation to Hamza who had been waiting years as well to find out if he was off

 

[Fedayn]

... and replaced with a bill of rights. See above.

Yes and, May used the HRA to refuse his extradition, the very same HRA she condemned for the lie she made about a man having a cat. May made clear she wanted to remove the HRA, that doesn't mean they wouldn't have something different in it's place, no-one said or implied that.

 

[Spymaster]

Oh come on.

So you weren't seeking to imply that the government couldn't have used legislation to tell the Yanks to fuck off, had they ditched the HRA?

 

[cesare]

Interesting commmentary from DAG:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2012/10/gary-mckinnon

 

[butchersapron]

So you weren't seeking to imply that the government couldn't have used legislation to tell the Yanks to fuck off, had they ditched the HRA?

Of course i wasn't. I was suggesting that she was happy to use the existing specific legislation whilst slagging it off, thus exposing her hypocrisy. Whether any future bill of rights would instantiate the same reasons for the decision are neither here nor there and certainly not in my thoughts. What an odd exchange.

 

[Spymaster]

Ok. I got the wrong end of the stick.

 

[teqniq]

I am well pleased with this, about fucking time.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Brilliant news.

Nowhere near enough wrt the disgraceful extradition treaty that the UK now has with the US (one that is not reciprocal as it is unconstitutional in the US to extradite on the terms the UK agreed to). But a start.

Bizarre to hear Alan Johnson slagging the decision off. Cunt.

 

[skyscraper101]

I find the timing interesting in relation to Hamza who had been waiting years as well to find out if he was off

Me too.

 

[captainmission]

This decision is based on the human rights act which the tories had a commitment in their election manifesto to get rid of.

Well no, the decision was based on political pandering and wanting to avoid bad press. I don't doubt that if they'd wanted to the government could have got this extradition pass the courts without much problem; his legal case was weak at best.

Although that said its always good to point out the tories for being a much of loathsome hypocritical cunts when the opportunity arises.

 

[butchersapron]

Well no, the decision was based on political pandering and wanting to avoid bad press. I don't doubt that if they'd wanted to the government could have got this extradition pass the courts without much problem; his legal case was weak at best.

Although that said its always good to point out the tories for being a much of loathsome hypocritical cunts when the opportunity arises.

No, not no. What was the legal basis for the decision?

 

[captainmission]

She's not actually stated the legal basis on which this has been done. She' only stated that

As the house would expect, I have very carefully considered the representations made on Mr McKinnon's behalf, including from a number of clinicians. I have obtained my own medical advice from practitioners recommended to me by the chief medical officer. And I have taken extensive legal advice.
After careful consideration of all of the relevant material, I have concluded that Mr McKinnon's extradition would give rise to such a high risk of him ending his life that a decision to extradite would be incompatible with Mr McKinnon's human rights.
I have therefore withdrawn the extradition order against Mr McKinnon.

Unless the government wishes to maintain its acting ultra vires, then they'll be relying on article 3 of HRA.

But if you want to be a needlessly pedantic arse (which you do) your statement was that this decision was based on the HRA- so yes, no. The legal justification for the deiscion is article 3. Its certainly not the basis for it.

 

[keybored]

Let's hope no one gets extradited from the UK to the USA to possibly face the death penalty

I think the UK don't extradite anyone if there's any possibility the death penalty could be imposed.

 

[Meltingpot]

Brilliant news.

Nowhere near enough wrt the disgraceful extradition treaty that the UK now has with the US (one that is not reciprocal as it is unconstitutional in the US to extradite on the terms the UK agreed to). But a start.

Bizarre to hear Alan Johnson slagging the decision off. Cunt.

I'm glad I didn't hear that, it's New Labour all over.

 

[Corax]

Never thought I'd ever want to high-five Theresa May.

I expect the decision was as coldly self-serving as every other that a politician makes, but I'm very happy with it nonetheless.

 

[barney_pig]

I am happy cos it really pisses off Andy newman

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I am happy cos it really pisses off Andy newman

 

[barney_pig]

if you can be arsed do a search on socialist unity. AN rather bizzarely has published a number of posts in which he defends the extradition of mckinnon, whilst simultaneously opposing all attempts to extradite assange and any number of terror suspects. In the case of McKinnon, AN argues that the US judicial system is fair and un biased and McKinnon is guarranteed a fair trial. the posts are even more bizarre than his aircraft carrier porn

 

[smokedout]

good news, there's others in the same boat who deserve support: http://juliasblog-the-fight-of-our-lives.blogspot.co.uk/

 

[Flanflinger]

So he'll no longer be a suicide risk.

Good news.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I have concluded that Mr McKinnon's extradition would give rise to such a high risk of him ending his life that a decision to extradite would be incompatible with Mr McKinnon's human rights.

So where does this leave Shrien Dewani? If sent to SA there's an almost 100% certainty he'll be subjected to 'slow puncture' before he even gets to trial.

 

[Citizen66]

So where does this leave Shrien Dewani? If sent to SA there's an almost 100% certainty he'll be subjected to 'slow puncture' before he even gets to trial.

The difference being that Gary was in the UK when his alleged crime was committed, so really was a crime committed here even if it was against another nation, where as Shrien was in South Africa when his alleged crime took place so is for SA to deal with.

But yeah,

I have concluded that Mr McKinnon's extradition would give rise to such a high risk of him ending his life that a decision to extradite would be incompatible with Mr McKinnon's human rights.

is similar in both cases.