Supermarket recommendations?

[Agnieshka]

Yeah but that's my point - agriculture in Poland is just as industrialised and fertilizer and pesticide reliant as anywhere else in Europe. Do you just use your rose tinted spectacles for food, or do you wear them all the time?

And I just would love to know where your so highly informed sources of agricultural knowledge are coming from? Would you mind revealing it?

 

[hiccup]

I'm not claiming to be an expert, but it's not hard to find documents like this:

http://www.pan-germany.org/download/facts_figures-engl.pdf

Countries like Poland and the Ukraine, which
have a small percentage of agricultural land under organic production, are in the Top 20 in
Europe regarding the total organic area.

Poland
In the year 2001, some 385 pesticide active ingredients, plant growth regulators and other
substances used in crop protection were registered in Poland. The evaluation of these substances
according to international classifications showed that:
• 7 substances are priority substances or candidates according to the European Water
Framework Directive;
• 2 are PIC pesticides;
• 154 of the ingredients authorised in Poland are classified by the European Union: 23
as very toxic, 31 as toxic, 69 as harmful and 15 as irritant;
• 210 of the ingredients authorised in Poland are classified by the WHO: 4 as
extremely hazardous, 16 as highly hazardous, 40 as moderately hazardous, 57 as
slightly hazardous and 102 as unlikely to present hazard in normal use;
• 32 of the ingredients authorised in Poland are cholinesterase inhibitors (ChE);
• 121 ingredients authorised in Poland are classified as “Dangerous for the
Environment” and 111 have been assigned the Symbol “N;”
• 18 of the ingredients authorised in Poland cause concern for humans due to possible
carcinogenic effects and have been placed in the carcinogenicity category 3 by the
EU;
• 4 cause concern for humans, owing to possible mutagenic effects and have been
placed in the mutagenicity category 3
• 5 may cause harm to the unborn child and 10 present possible risks of harm to the
unborn child.

Poland
In 2002, a new system of monitoring the use of pesticides came into force in Poland. The
system was created based on the British example and is much more detailed than the previous one.

I'm not saying the UK is any better, but don't be naive about modern food production in most, if not all, of Europe.

 

[Xanadu]

Political and economical changes in Poland in the last decade resulted in a decrease in the use of artificial fertilisers and pesticides. After a big reduction in 1989, the use of fertilisers grew by 5.8 percent in last years and was at 88.5 kg NPK per hectare in 2002. Pesticide use increased more rapidly - by seven percent - to 0.62 kg per hectare (in 1989 1.6 kg per hectare was used).

taken from
http://www.organic-europe.net/country_reports/poland/default.asp

Have no idea how those figures compare to the UK.

 

[Agnieshka]

I'm not claiming to be an expert, but it's not hard to find documents like this:

http://www.pan-germany.org/download/facts_figures-engl.pdf







I'm not saying the UK is any better, but don't be naive about modern food production in most, if not all, of Europe.

Wow! I take my hat off to your source! Well I left Poland 15 years ago to live in Brussels so maybe you are right. That just goes to show what joining the EU can do to a decent country
All Iam saying is I like my food to taste of SOMETHING. Not like f**** Tesco shit!

 

[hiccup]

Wow! I take my hat off to your source! Well I left Poland 15 years ago to live in Brussels so maybe you are right. That just goes to show what joining the EU can do to a decent country
All Iam saying is I like my food to taste of SOMETHING. Not like f**** Tesco shit!

Isn't Tesco one of the largest supermarket chains in Poland now?

 

[Agnieshka]

Isn't Tesco one of the largest supermarket chains in Poland now?

Yes it is! you are absolutely right but no one in their right ming is buying the fresh produce there! It is solely for plebs. Believe me. Cheep and cheerful.

 

[hiccup]

I should add that I actually love Polish food. Had a big portion of pierogi from the Polish centre in Hammersmith the other day, which was bloody lovely.

 

[Errol's son]

I should add that I actually love Polish food. Had a big portion of pierogi from the Polish centre in Hammersmith the other day, which was bloody lovely.

I love Polish food too.

In New York they have a bit of a Polish area in lower Manhatten on the easternside somewhere. I used to go for breakfast there. Delicious.

Where in London is good for Polish food, particularly breakfast?

Where in Hammersmith is that place exactly?

 

[geminisnake]

Cause my husband is unfortunately English!

I love that sentence

You can get really yummy chocolate from Lidl. They have their cherry pralines in again and the coffee cream stuff is excellent

 

[Agnieshka]

I should add that I actually love Polish food. Had a big portion of pierogi from the Polish centre in Hammersmith the other day, which was bloody lovely.

There you go! I make these on regular basis but I bring the sauerkraut (most important ingredient) from Belgium as you can't find a good one in the UK.... You should also try BIGOs (sauerkraut+ bits of meat and wild mushrooms) delicious!

 

[hiccup]

I love Polish food too.

In New York they have a bit of a Polish area in lower Manhatten on the easternside somewhere. I used to go for breakfast there. Delicious.

Where in London is good for Polish food, particularly breakfast?

Where in Hammersmith is that place exactly?

http://www.posk.org/

 

[Agnieshka]

I love that sentence

You can get really yummy chocolate from Lidl. They have their cherry pralines in again and the coffee cream stuff is excellent

About the husband shit... PLease don't laugh at other people misfortune
I agree about lidl they have some good cheese as well. Try the "light" ones... or the herreng.
You asked for Polish breakfast?! god, that's like herreng, sausage and heavy cake. Even worse than the English one.

 

[hiccup]

There you go! I make these on regular basis but I bring the sauerkraut (most important ingredient) from Belgium as you can't find a good one in the UK.... You should also try BIGOs (sauerkraut+ bits of meat and wild mushrooms) delicious!

I have eaten plenty of bigos. Lovely stuff.

You can't find good sauerkraut in London? Head west! Every other shop here in Ealing is a Polish deli!

 

[Agnieshka]

I have eaten plenty of bigos. Lovely stuff.

You can't find good sauerkraut in London? Head west! Every other shop here in Ealing is a Polish deli!

Wow, you really must have some serious Polish connections knowing bigos and all of this shopping places. I feel ashamed!

 

[hiccup]

http://www.polishspecialities.com/newver/index.php?ps=sklepy&lang=en

 

[hiccup]

I work with some really cool Polish people

 

[Agnieshka]

http://www.polishspecialities.com/newver/index.php?ps=sklepy&lang=en

FAntastic. I'm off to do my shopping then. Thank you

 

[hiccup]

FAntastic. I'm off to do my shopping then. Thank you

I bet it's all British stuff really

 

[Maggot]

I should add that I actually love Polish food. Had a big portion of pierogi from the Polish centre in Hammersmith the other day, which was bloody lovely.

I thought pierogi was Ukranian.



Hey, just reached 10,000 posts!

 

[hiccup]

I thought pierogi was Ukranian.



Hey, just reached 10,000 posts!

Pierogi are of virtually untraceable Central or Eastern European origin; claims have been staked for the Poles, Russians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Rusyns, Slovaks, and the Czechs. Similarity to dumplings found in the Far East such as Chinese potstickers fuels speculation, well-founded or not, that the Mongols and Tatars brought the recipe to the West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierogi

So...fuck knows!

 

[cyberfairy]

bumped to say i bought some 'buttery baked beans with black pepper' from Morrisons today-bought 2p more than normal ones, 36 p or something and they are lovely, really do taste buttery

 

[tangerinedream]

bumped to say i bought some 'buttery baked beans with black pepper' from Morrisons today-bought 2p more than normal ones, 36 p or something and they are lovely, really do taste buttery

and that's a good thing?

 

[cyberfairy]

and that's a good thing?

Yes Is the concept a little avante garde for you?